Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
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pagoni202027 Jul 2020 12:21Tolentino schrieb:
Well, @neo-sciliar has mentioned several times that in his family the bathroom door is simply not closed. They happily walk through it even when someone is using it. I wouldn’t do it myself, but that’s just not a problem for him. Of course, everyone can decide for themselves. My point is that he dismisses all the different, constructive suggestions as unsuitable and unimpressive, while calling his very specific solution clear and functional; he also complains about the criticism and feels treated unfairly.
No one can or should forbid his family’s apparently existing bathroom customs, but this example clearly illustrates why such situations are strongly criticized. He named his thread ".....Comments welcome" and not "Approval requested."
In the end, I don’t really care how he builds his house, and if he’s happy with it, it would be unwise for him to let me or anyone else here convince him otherwise.
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neo-sciliar27 Jul 2020 12:24I’ll try a different approach: What do you think of the attached floor plan, and what suggestions do you have for improvements?
This is constructive:
And many people here have told you that. You don’t address it at all.
That’s why we recommend having a design created by an experienced architect, which you can then build with your company Stommel Haus.
For me, this discussion is like trying to explain to my 8-year-old niece that the self-made ashtray isn’t nice or practical. And she asks why... because you can put ashes on it. There’s no need to try to straighten the ashtray again…
ypg schrieb:
I can only emphasize again that you should go to a competent architect with a written list of your room requirements (not a drawing, for heaven’s sake no drawing). Anything else is a waste of time.
If you keep going like this, the kids will have moved out long before—and then you’ll have nearly 300 sq m (about 3,230 sq ft) for just two people.
And many people here have told you that. You don’t address it at all.
neo-sciliar schrieb:
You know what bothers me here: everyone just says it’s rubbish.
neo-sciliar schrieb:Do you know what really makes this so difficult? We are discussing plans that reflect somewhat naive, almost childlike ideas. And that doesn’t register with you at all when we explain it—of course, using different words. You don’t see it yourself either.
Very few are truly constructive here. Very few. That’s a pity.
That’s why we recommend having a design created by an experienced architect, which you can then build with your company Stommel Haus.
For me, this discussion is like trying to explain to my 8-year-old niece that the self-made ashtray isn’t nice or practical. And she asks why... because you can put ashes on it. There’s no need to try to straighten the ashtray again…
pagoni2020 schrieb:
He named his thread ".....comments welcome" and not "requesting approval."Well, the question "How are you" expects the answer "I'm fine, thank you!" :-(I am beginning to wonder if the designer of the existing Stommel house has fallen out of favor because the bedroom is not accessed through a bathroom as a vestibule (?)
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neo-sciliar27 Jul 2020 12:46ypg schrieb:
This is constructive:
And many people here have told you that. You don’t respond to it at all.
Do you know what really makes this so difficult? We are discussing plans that reflect somewhat naive, almost childlike ideas. And with you, that doesn’t come across when we explain it—of course, in different words. You don’t see it yourself either.
That’s why we recommend having a design created by an experienced architect, which you can then build with your company Stommel Haus.
For me, this discussion is like trying to explain to my eight-year-old niece that the handmade ashtray isn’t pretty or good. And she asks why… because you can put ashes in it. You also don’t have to try to straighten the ashtray again afterward… That’s exactly what we did. We wrote down all the requirements (!) and sent them to planners from three different home builders. Only Stommel Haus came back with a design; the other two just sent the floor plan of one of their standard models, which didn’t fit at all. The Stommel Haus design corresponds about 80% to what has been discussed here (visible in #25 here).
I want to understand why other floor plans you posted are considered “better.” Is there a technical reason? Are there processes that function better in everyday use (which ones)?
When someone makes something available for criticism to many people, I would say:
- I don’t like it → that is subjective and not up for discussion
- It’s bad → then I can also justify it, because that is an objective assessment. This is exactly what I am missing here (apart from the discussion about access to the bedroom, there must be much more that makes the somewhat awkward floor plan by Rensch-Haus “better”).
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pagoni202027 Jul 2020 12:4711ant schrieb:
Well, the question "How are You" expects the answer "I’m fine, thank You!" :-( Since I don’t speak or understand that foreign stuff, I’ll just say my opinion.
11ant schrieb:
I’m beginning to wonder if the designer of the previous Stommel house has fallen out of favor because the bedroom isn’t entered through a bathroom as a kind of airlock (?) I rather think the designer (of course proposed by himself) is up for the next innovation award.
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