ᐅ Comments and feedback on the floor plan layout are welcome.

Created on: 24 May 2020 10:24
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Hello everyone,

We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.

On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."

We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.

We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.

The house will be built as a timber frame house.

The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.

Thank you and best regards,
Andreas

Grundriss eines Hauses von oben mit Wohnzimmer, Küche, Bad, Flur, Treppenhaus und Schlafzimmern.


Grundriss eines Hauses von oben: Wohnzimmer, Küche, Essbereich, Schlafzimmer, Bad, Fluren, Garten.


Lageplan mit rotem Rechteck um einen Grundstücksteil an der Tannenstraße nahe dem Waldrand.
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pagoni2020
24 Jul 2020 20:34
Würfel* schrieb:

I would plant tall evergreen shrubs in front of the electrical cabinet
... how intrusive!
I think the electrical cabinet should be dealt with first so that it’s clear where the house and rooms (preferably everything on casters) will be located.
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Würfel*
24 Jul 2020 20:47
pagoni2020 schrieb:

I think the electrical box should be clarified first so that you know where the house and the rooms (preferably all on casters) will go.

Haha, not everyone can orient their house towards a lake; some just have the electrical box to work with.
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neo-sciliar
25 Jul 2020 09:47
Just to be clear: we don’t plan to plant anything on the electrical cabinet (which we actually aren’t allowed to), but we want to orient the house so that we don’t notice it. 11ant can tell you how idyllic these are.

Whether I orient my house towards a lake or, in a negative sense, orient it away from something, both options are possible.

Having the entrance on the side means the front door is located under the carport, which results in less natural light and requires a wider carport.
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pagoni2020
25 Jul 2020 11:46
neo-sciliar schrieb:

Whether I orient my house towards a lake, or rather avoid orienting it towards something undesirable, both options are possible.

You’re right; but if that orientation causes the house to be positioned incorrectly in terms of intended use, cardinal directions, and so on, then neither the lake nor the unseen electrical box would benefit me.
The lake is relevant in our case, so your point is valid. At some point, we realized that we couldn’t subordinate everything to a lake view without losing quality of living elsewhere.
For us, it was clear that the living areas needed to be optimally oriented within the framework of the zoning plan (building permit / planning permission), and only then would a lake view option come into play. For example, from one area we will see a barn building, which stands in the middle of nature but next to our property. We will partially see it (and eventually stop perceiving it as such), and we might put a garden shed there or plant something to at least partly block the view.
However, we would never rotate the house or arrange the rooms just to avoid seeing it.
Honestly, I believe the eye will adapt and soon won’t perceive it as something drastic because it will no longer be in the main focus. Poor floor plan design, however, would bother me for a lifetime.
Therefore: neither the lake view nor the view of the electrical box could ever make me orient my house in a way that would compromise the floor plan or important functions.
I like apple pie with cream... but I’d rather have apple pie without cream than lemon cake with cream.
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neo-sciliar
25 Jul 2020 12:23
neo-sciliar schrieb:

Just to be clear: we don’t want to plant anything on the electrical box (in fact, we’re not allowed to), but rather orient the house so that we don’t notice it. 11ant can tell you how picturesque those are.

Whether I orient my house towards a lake, or conversely orient it away from something, either option is possible.

Having the entrance on the side means the front door is located under the carport → less natural light and the carport has to be wider.
pagoni2020 schrieb:

You are right; but if this orientation leads to the house being positioned incorrectly in terms of usability, cardinal direction, and other factors, then neither the lake nor the hidden electrical box will benefit me.
The lake view applies in our case, so your comment is a good point. We eventually realized we can’t prioritize the lake view in every respect without losing living quality elsewhere.
For us, it was clear that the living spaces should be optimally oriented according to the development plan first, and only then should the lake view option be considered. For example, in one area, we will be looking at a stable building that stands in the middle of nature but next to our property. We will see it to some extent (eventually it won’t be perceived as such anymore) and maybe we’ll place a garden shed there or plant something to partially screen it.
But we would never rotate the house or arrange the rooms just to avoid seeing it.
Honestly, I believe the eye adjusts and soon it won’t seem nearly as intrusive because it fades from our focus. Poor floorplan design, however, would bother me for life.
So: neither the lake view nor the view of the electrical box would ever cause me to orient my house in a way that compromises the floorplan or important functions.
I enjoy apple pie with cream… but I’d rather have apple pie without cream than lemon cake with cream.

I fully agree with you there, but
- in ant11’s eyes, the picturesque electrical box is located to the east. There are also very tall trees there, so no sunlight comes from that side. At the same time, the driveway will approach from the east by car, making the carport suitable there (the curb is lowered exactly for that).

I agree with you about facing north (garden and forest beyond). I would prefer more of a view in that direction.
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neo-sciliar
26 Jul 2020 09:55
For your information: some of my posts have been edited or deleted by the admin team (I can no longer track the details precisely). So, it’s not always my fault if things are no longer traceable.