ᐅ New Single-Family Home Built to KfW55 Standard – Which Heating System to Choose?
Created on: 19 Jul 2020 12:19
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Hello everyone,
I have read many articles and would now like to benefit from the extensive knowledge of the members here.
A brief overview of my building project:
- Single-family house with approximately 160sqm (1,722 sq ft) of living space
- No basement, 2 full floors with an unfinished attic
- Relatively large window areas and an open-plan design with a staircase in the living area
- Underfloor heating throughout the house with tile flooring
- KfW 55 standard with timber frame construction
- A wood-burning stove will be installed
Unfortunately, I have little experience in this area and rely on recommendations from others regarding heating.
On the ground floor, we have a utility room of 8sqm (86 sq ft) where we would like to accommodate all the technical equipment.
The builder recommends installing a central ventilation system, which we would like to do.
Now to my question:
There is a gas connection in our building area, and a friend told me we should definitely heat with a gas boiler. To meet the KfW standard, according to the energy consultant, we still need to install 9sqm (97 sq ft) of solar panels on the roof.
A heating engineer friend advises: choose an air-to-water heat pump – split system Weishaupt LS 8-BREK – so you can avoid the solar requirement.
I have requested quotes for both options from different heating engineers, and they come out roughly the same in price.
Since I have heard many statements opposing air-to-water heat pumps, I tend to prefer gas.
However, the main challenge is the limited space in the utility room. In addition to the heating system, the two-flue fireplace, and the ventilation system, the electrical control cabinet as well as the washing machine and dryer are also planned to be located there.
Is there anyone who has faced a similar space issue?
What would you recommend?
Thank you very much in advance for your help.
I have read many articles and would now like to benefit from the extensive knowledge of the members here.
A brief overview of my building project:
- Single-family house with approximately 160sqm (1,722 sq ft) of living space
- No basement, 2 full floors with an unfinished attic
- Relatively large window areas and an open-plan design with a staircase in the living area
- Underfloor heating throughout the house with tile flooring
- KfW 55 standard with timber frame construction
- A wood-burning stove will be installed
Unfortunately, I have little experience in this area and rely on recommendations from others regarding heating.
On the ground floor, we have a utility room of 8sqm (86 sq ft) where we would like to accommodate all the technical equipment.
The builder recommends installing a central ventilation system, which we would like to do.
Now to my question:
There is a gas connection in our building area, and a friend told me we should definitely heat with a gas boiler. To meet the KfW standard, according to the energy consultant, we still need to install 9sqm (97 sq ft) of solar panels on the roof.
A heating engineer friend advises: choose an air-to-water heat pump – split system Weishaupt LS 8-BREK – so you can avoid the solar requirement.
I have requested quotes for both options from different heating engineers, and they come out roughly the same in price.
Since I have heard many statements opposing air-to-water heat pumps, I tend to prefer gas.
However, the main challenge is the limited space in the utility room. In addition to the heating system, the two-flue fireplace, and the ventilation system, the electrical control cabinet as well as the washing machine and dryer are also planned to be located there.
Is there anyone who has faced a similar space issue?
What would you recommend?
Thank you very much in advance for your help.
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nordanney22 Jul 2020 20:01DaSch17 schrieb:
What about an air-to-air heat pump?Great technology, but really only suitable for passive houses. And the users also need to behave accordingly. Just Google the issues with Proxon – it’s basically the cheapest heating system you can install. Completely unsuitable for standard houses.nordanney schrieb:
Great idea. But really only suitable for passive houses. And users have to behave accordingly. Just google the problems with Proxon – it's basically the cheapest heating system you can install. Totally unsuitable for normal houses.Yes, I have read the same many times.
One of the general contractors we are currently in detailed discussions with recommends the Proxxon if the entire concept is coordinated accordingly.
He doesn't care which heating system we choose and can therefore look at everything quite objectively.
We have an open-plan living/dining/kitchen area of about 60 sqm (645 sq ft) with a gallery. A panoramic fireplace is planned for this area. In the bathrooms, electric underfloor heating is to be installed. The house meets the Energy Efficiency Standard 40 Plus.
We are currently seriously considering the Proxxon...
DaSch17 schrieb:
There is surely a reason why a giant like Stiebel Eltron has invested in Zimmermann (= manufacturer of Proxxon).
Also, many of the major single-family home builders (Weberhaus, Bien-Zenker) use Proxxon as standard. They probably wouldn’t do that if the system were rubbish and caused many complaints... That’s because more profit can be made with it.
DaSch17 schrieb:
I’ve heard from many sources already that overall it is the most efficient and cost-effective system. On top of that, it offers a fast response time and a cooling function. Only if the house design fits, the location is suitable, and the user behavior matches. It’s similar to manufacturers’ claims about fuel consumption.
DaSch17 schrieb:
They want to install electric underfloor heating in the bathrooms. Why is that?
Mycraft schrieb:
Only if the house fits and the area and user behavior are suitableSo, potentially also usable in a 40 plus single-family house—as long as the overall concept is coherent—right?
Mycraft schrieb:
Why is that?- Warmth on bare feet
- Shorter response times compared to water-based underfloor heating, since the heating elements are installed on top of the screed rather than inside it
- Also more energy-efficient than the Proxxon system (fast heating with the Proxxon is only possible using the additional heating element in the ventilation outlet)
- Demand-oriented control via timer
At least, that’s what we were told, and we found similar information to some extent on Google...
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
Per air-to-air heat pump, that's just marketing hype.
When I hear "short response time"..Short is always relative...
Compared to a conventional underfloor heating system, the shorter response time is indeed accurate.
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