ᐅ Floor Plan for a 200 sqm Urban Villa – Are Our Requirements Feasible?
Created on: 13 Jul 2020 14:14
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ECE-2021
Hello everyone,
I’m a bit overwhelmed with our floor plan and keep running into the same problems...
The main issue is probably how to integrate a straight staircase from the ground floor to the upper floor, and how we would have to modify or extend the hallway to fit such a staircase without "breaking up" the other rooms.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1005 m² (0.25 acres)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: according to neighboring developments
Floor area ratio: according to neighboring developments
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: according to neighboring developments
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: double / large garage planned
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: street facing northeast, plot extends sideways toward west-northwest, garden planned all around southwest / west-northwest
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults + young child (3)
Office: home office?
Closed architecture
Closed kitchen, kitchen island
Fireplace
Balcony
Garage
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Option 1: planner from a construction company (not yet an architect)
- Option 2: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Overall, the floor plan is good and was implemented largely according to our ideas.
What do you dislike? Why?
We would prefer a straight staircase. According to a staircase calculator tool, it would require a length of 3.70 m (12 ft).
From research, this might be rather uncomfortable and therefore unrealistic.
We would be willing to extend the hallway for the straight staircase if necessary.
Symmetry, especially in the front view of the house, is very important to us, so we want to keep the type of front door as is.
The awkward corner in the upper hallway is not very appealing (bedroom / office).
Furthermore, the hallway window was initially placed in the child’s bedroom, but that will be changed so there is natural light in the upper floor hallway.
I’m also wondering if the chimney flue on the upper floor can still be routed freely, possibly offset within the ceiling/floor. Or does it have to go straight up from the ground floor fireplace? Because then it would end up right in the middle of the upper floor hallway.
If you have to give up something, which details or fittings could you do without?
- Could you compromise on: I’m open to suggestions for now
- Cannot compromise on: ideally the straight staircase
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
See differences between our design and the construction company’s plan
- straight staircase instead of quarter-turn
- kitchen recessed
- window in the hallway instead of in the child’s room
- ideally no hallway obstruction on the upper floor
I’m a bit overwhelmed with our floor plan and keep running into the same problems...
The main issue is probably how to integrate a straight staircase from the ground floor to the upper floor, and how we would have to modify or extend the hallway to fit such a staircase without "breaking up" the other rooms.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1005 m² (0.25 acres)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: according to neighboring developments
Floor area ratio: according to neighboring developments
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: according to neighboring developments
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: double / large garage planned
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: street facing northeast, plot extends sideways toward west-northwest, garden planned all around southwest / west-northwest
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor + upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults + young child (3)
Office: home office?
Closed architecture
Closed kitchen, kitchen island
Fireplace
Balcony
Garage
House design
Who designed the plan:
- Option 1: planner from a construction company (not yet an architect)
- Option 2: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Overall, the floor plan is good and was implemented largely according to our ideas.
What do you dislike? Why?
We would prefer a straight staircase. According to a staircase calculator tool, it would require a length of 3.70 m (12 ft).
From research, this might be rather uncomfortable and therefore unrealistic.
We would be willing to extend the hallway for the straight staircase if necessary.
Symmetry, especially in the front view of the house, is very important to us, so we want to keep the type of front door as is.
The awkward corner in the upper hallway is not very appealing (bedroom / office).
Furthermore, the hallway window was initially placed in the child’s bedroom, but that will be changed so there is natural light in the upper floor hallway.
I’m also wondering if the chimney flue on the upper floor can still be routed freely, possibly offset within the ceiling/floor. Or does it have to go straight up from the ground floor fireplace? Because then it would end up right in the middle of the upper floor hallway.
If you have to give up something, which details or fittings could you do without?
- Could you compromise on: I’m open to suggestions for now
- Cannot compromise on: ideally the straight staircase
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
See differences between our design and the construction company’s plan
- straight staircase instead of quarter-turn
- kitchen recessed
- window in the hallway instead of in the child’s room
- ideally no hallway obstruction on the upper floor
Alessandro schrieb:
I also have 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft) of living space with a straight staircase, but no basement.
It can definitely be done more harmoniously, with smaller rooms that still feel spacious.
The planner’s design is clearly a joke! No direct access from the kitchen to the dining room?!Yes, I guess they simply forgot the sliding door. It was included in an earlier version of the plan.
Did you upload your floor plan here as inspiration?
ECE-2021 schrieb:
What would you like to know? [...] We are both in our early 30s, but of course you want to live in a house like this as long as possible I wanted to check the age, for example. So, mid-30s – meaning you belong to a generation that will rarely move houses in older age; if anything, staying put is almost unconventional nowadays.
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We also have a sauna in the bathroom but with some square meters less, and there is still more than enough space. I’m referring, for example, to the area in front of the shower.
The air space feels intentional but not well executed.
For the kitchen, look up the “work triangle.” The distance between the rows should be about 120 to 130 cm (47 to 51 inches). Your path from the kitchen workspace to the table—no matter which one—is roughly the same length. Where is the terrace planned?
The straight staircase is not the issue. The problem is your approach of “bigger is better,” which results in ergonomically poor spaces (kitchen) or creates the impression of a shoebox (hallway).
The air space feels intentional but not well executed.
For the kitchen, look up the “work triangle.” The distance between the rows should be about 120 to 130 cm (47 to 51 inches). Your path from the kitchen workspace to the table—no matter which one—is roughly the same length. Where is the terrace planned?
The straight staircase is not the issue. The problem is your approach of “bigger is better,” which results in ergonomically poor spaces (kitchen) or creates the impression of a shoebox (hallway).
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Alessandro14 Jul 2020 07:11With your current kitchen being 22m² (237 sq ft), it is acceptable; however, the planned layout is very unbalanced, impractical, and 5m² (54 sq ft) larger. The designer’s draft with the table in the corner, which cannot really be used, does not need to be pursued any further.
11ant schrieb:
For example, I wanted to check the age. Mid-30s then – so you belong to a generation where it will be quite rare to move to a different house in old age, if not almost exotic against the trend. Thanks for the note.
You always assume when moving in at mid-30s that it is something for old age.
haydee schrieb:
We also have a sauna in the bathroom, but a few square meters less, and it still leaves plenty of space. I am referring, for example, to the area in front of the shower.
The open space feels intentional rather than awkward.
For the kitchen, search online for the “work triangle.” The distance between the kitchen rows should be about 120 to 130 cm (47 to 51 inches).
The distance from the kitchen workspace to the table—regardless of table type—is roughly the same. Where is the terrace planned?
The straight staircase is not the issue. The problem is your approach of “bigger is better,” which leads to unergonomic designs (kitchen) or the impression of a long, narrow box (hallway). How large is your sauna? Are you happy with its size?
I actually found it quite challenging to arrange everything in the bathroom so that the walking distances remain comfortable.
In the planning software, you can view everything in 3D, and all rooms do seem very small. Maybe that’s just the software.
The terrace opens from the living/dining area, with an option for a "corner" terrace.
haydee schrieb:
The impression of a long, narrow box (hallway) Is 18 sqm (194 sq ft) really that small for a hallway?
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