ᐅ LEDs for the suspended ceiling in the bathroom, suitable for 12 or 230 volts
Created on: 9 Jul 2020 18:54
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annab377
Hello everyone,
In our bathroom, we plan to install a suspended ceiling with swiveling recessed spots featuring GU10 bases. Now we have a question about the LEDs: what are the advantages and disadvantages of 12-volt versus 230-volt LEDs? The only thing I know is that 12-volt LEDs require an LED driver or transformer. So 230-volt LEDs should be more cost-effective since you can skip the transformer. Or do 230-volt LEDs have a shorter lifespan?
For example, Philips Hue bulbs are 230 volts, and we want to install two of these in the ceiling of the bathroom (one above the toilet and one above the bathtub). That seems to be another point in favor of choosing 230-volt LEDs for the other spots, right?
Thank you very much for your answers.
PS: In the kitchen, is it really that important to use LEDs with a CRI (Color Rendering Index) above 90 for the countertop area?
In our bathroom, we plan to install a suspended ceiling with swiveling recessed spots featuring GU10 bases. Now we have a question about the LEDs: what are the advantages and disadvantages of 12-volt versus 230-volt LEDs? The only thing I know is that 12-volt LEDs require an LED driver or transformer. So 230-volt LEDs should be more cost-effective since you can skip the transformer. Or do 230-volt LEDs have a shorter lifespan?
For example, Philips Hue bulbs are 230 volts, and we want to install two of these in the ceiling of the bathroom (one above the toilet and one above the bathtub). That seems to be another point in favor of choosing 230-volt LEDs for the other spots, right?
Thank you very much for your answers.
PS: In the kitchen, is it really that important to use LEDs with a CRI (Color Rendering Index) above 90 for the countertop area?
Okay, thanks.
But what am I misunderstanding? The Philips Hue lamps are specified to operate at 230 V, right? And I understood that I can control up to 10 lamps without a Bridge or anything else (ZigBee), just using the Bluetooth app. I planned to screw the lamp into a self-made GU10 socket designed for 230 volts, plug it into the outlet, and then expect the lamp to appear in my Philips Hue Bluetooth app.
But what am I misunderstanding? The Philips Hue lamps are specified to operate at 230 V, right? And I understood that I can control up to 10 lamps without a Bridge or anything else (ZigBee), just using the Bluetooth app. I planned to screw the lamp into a self-made GU10 socket designed for 230 volts, plug it into the outlet, and then expect the lamp to appear in my Philips Hue Bluetooth app.
Okay, I thought I might damage the bulb when plugging it into a 230V (230V) outlet. I will see how I like the light bulb considering the price.
The advantage is definitely the much simpler electrical installation, requiring only a single power cable for 230 volts (no need to install dimmers, etc.).
The advantage is definitely the much simpler electrical installation, requiring only a single power cable for 230 volts (no need to install dimmers, etc.).
annab377 schrieb:
The clear advantage is definitely the significantly reduced electrical installation effort, requiring only a single power cable for 230 volts (no need to install dimmers, etc.).The disadvantage, of course, is the significantly reduced electrical installation effort, with only one power cable for 230 volts. You need to buy new dimmers with each light fixture.annab377 schrieb:
I damage the Hue if I plug it into a 230V socket.Well, you definitely need to check what you’re buying. Not necessarily the Hue, but there are other colorful lamps designed for 12 volts as well.H
hampshire11 Jul 2020 13:14Every LED fixture in the house consists of at least the following essential components:
Light source: LED semiconductor chip
Driver: LED controller
AC/DC converter: commonly referred to as a transformer.
If you run 230 V all the way to the installation point of the spotlights, you will also install a transformer and driver for the spotlight at that location.
If the transformer/driver combination is dimmable at 230 V, you can dim your spotlights using a suitable dimmer (there are also different types of dimmers).
Light source: LED semiconductor chip
Driver: LED controller
AC/DC converter: commonly referred to as a transformer.
If you run 230 V all the way to the installation point of the spotlights, you will also install a transformer and driver for the spotlight at that location.
If the transformer/driver combination is dimmable at 230 V, you can dim your spotlights using a suitable dimmer (there are also different types of dimmers).
bauenmk202012 Jul 2020 09:58hampshire schrieb:
Every LED light in the house consists of at least the following essential components:
Light source: LED semiconductor chip
Driver: LED control unit
AC-DC converter: generally called a transformer.
If you run 230V (115V) wiring up to the installation point of the spotlight, you also install a transformer and driver for the spotlight there.
If the transformer/driver combination is 230V dimmable, you can dim your spots with a compatible dimmer (note that there are also differences here).I have a question: How do I dim 12V / 24V LEDs (each with its own transformer) on a 230V (115V) circuit with several spots wired in series? Can I install a 230V dimmer as an in-wall module behind the light switch? What should you pay attention to with low-voltage spots so that they can be dimmed by the 230V dimmer? The recommended dimmer actuator for me was the eltako wireless actuator universal dimmer switch FUD61NPN-230V.
Thank you.
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