ᐅ Single-family house, 2,370 sq ft, with a basement on a 7,530 sq ft plot of land
Created on: 8 Jul 2020 21:17
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EFH2020
Hello everyone,
We have a 750 m² (8,073 sq ft) plot where we plan to build approximately 220 m² (2,368 sq ft) plus a basement and garages.
After initial discussions with builders, we find the following floor plan quite good, as it reflects our desired room sizes on both the ground floor and upper floor.
Ground Floor:
Two main questions still concern us:
1) Should the kitchen/dining area be on the left, or should the living room be located there instead?
The recessed kitchen on the left works well for natural light and especially because otherwise, we can't properly fit the staircase. Having the living room on the left would be nice since there is sun there until about 9:30 pm in summer, while the right side is in the shade by 6:30 pm. It’s a matter of preference when and where you want sunlight, but we’d be interested in your opinions.
2) Where should the staircase be placed, and how can we avoid losing much space on the upper floor?
So far, we have only found one solution. We prefer a 180-degree staircase; a 90-degree staircase would also work, ideally with a landing, as we want to avoid angled stair treads.
Other notes:
The plan lacks a pantry. We initially considered placing it in the passageway from the garage to the hallway, but there isn’t enough space for that. So the pantry will now go into the basement. Additionally, the hallway doesn’t have a particularly large cloakroom, so we are considering taking some space from the kitchen/guest room. The guest bathroom on the ground floor could be a bit larger.
Upper Floor:
We need the space upstairs for two children’s bedrooms, a study, two bathrooms, a master suite, and a utility room. With the current staircase placement and some restrictions regarding the master dressing room and bathroom, everything fits well, and we like the room sizes and their layouts.
Basement:
Yes, we need a “white tank” (watertight concrete basement). We want it for storage and technical equipment, which cannot be accommodated upstairs. Other rooms like a home gym are nice to have but not essential. Nevertheless, we want the basement for possible resale value and flexibility. Due to costs, we plan to only partially finish the basement. So the basement layout is less important for now.
We would very much appreciate hearing your thoughts on our ideas, what you like, and especially what you find problematic in the floor plan.
Many thanks in advance!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 750 m² (8,073 sq ft)
Flat terrain
Floor area ratio - no development plan
Plot ratio - no development plan
Building envelope: 12 x 15 m (39 x 49 ft), we plan to build about 12 x 12 m (39 x 39 ft)
Setbacks: 3 meters (10 ft) on all sides
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1-2 full stories
Roof type: Pitched roof preferred, flat gable roof also acceptable (preliminary building approval planned)
Style:
Orientation: Garden faces southwest
Maximum height/restrictions: approx. 8 meters (26 ft) (survey pending)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type - no bay windows or balconies, pitched roof
Basement: yes
Number of occupants, age - 2 adults and 2 small children
Space requirements on ground/upper floors: like the rooms shown in the plan
Office use: family use or home office? Both work about 50% from home
Annual overnight guests: regularly guest stays with children
Open or closed layout: closed upstairs, open downstairs
Conservative or modern style: undecided
Open kitchen, kitchen island - kitchen island with 2 seats
Dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes (no coal)
House Design
Who created the design:
- Planner from a construction company, modified by us
What do we like? Room sizes
What do we dislike? Master area – dressing room and bathroom are cramped. Is the hallway with the staircase practical? Kitchen on the left side is practical regarding light, but the living room won’t have sun after 7 pm in summer? Possibly rearrange the sofa in the living room for the TV
Estimated price according to architect/planner: €700,000 including basement, garages, and additional construction costs (excluding land)
Personal budget limit for house including fittings: €750,000 (€50,000 for kitchen, landscaping)
Preferred heating system: Ground-source heat pump with cooling option
Why is the design as it is?
Upstairs we need the space for 2 children’s bedrooms, a study, two bathrooms, and a utility room.
We have a 750 m² (8,073 sq ft) plot where we plan to build approximately 220 m² (2,368 sq ft) plus a basement and garages.
After initial discussions with builders, we find the following floor plan quite good, as it reflects our desired room sizes on both the ground floor and upper floor.
Ground Floor:
Two main questions still concern us:
1) Should the kitchen/dining area be on the left, or should the living room be located there instead?
The recessed kitchen on the left works well for natural light and especially because otherwise, we can't properly fit the staircase. Having the living room on the left would be nice since there is sun there until about 9:30 pm in summer, while the right side is in the shade by 6:30 pm. It’s a matter of preference when and where you want sunlight, but we’d be interested in your opinions.
2) Where should the staircase be placed, and how can we avoid losing much space on the upper floor?
So far, we have only found one solution. We prefer a 180-degree staircase; a 90-degree staircase would also work, ideally with a landing, as we want to avoid angled stair treads.
Other notes:
The plan lacks a pantry. We initially considered placing it in the passageway from the garage to the hallway, but there isn’t enough space for that. So the pantry will now go into the basement. Additionally, the hallway doesn’t have a particularly large cloakroom, so we are considering taking some space from the kitchen/guest room. The guest bathroom on the ground floor could be a bit larger.
Upper Floor:
We need the space upstairs for two children’s bedrooms, a study, two bathrooms, a master suite, and a utility room. With the current staircase placement and some restrictions regarding the master dressing room and bathroom, everything fits well, and we like the room sizes and their layouts.
Basement:
Yes, we need a “white tank” (watertight concrete basement). We want it for storage and technical equipment, which cannot be accommodated upstairs. Other rooms like a home gym are nice to have but not essential. Nevertheless, we want the basement for possible resale value and flexibility. Due to costs, we plan to only partially finish the basement. So the basement layout is less important for now.
We would very much appreciate hearing your thoughts on our ideas, what you like, and especially what you find problematic in the floor plan.
Many thanks in advance!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 750 m² (8,073 sq ft)
Flat terrain
Floor area ratio - no development plan
Plot ratio - no development plan
Building envelope: 12 x 15 m (39 x 49 ft), we plan to build about 12 x 12 m (39 x 39 ft)
Setbacks: 3 meters (10 ft) on all sides
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1-2 full stories
Roof type: Pitched roof preferred, flat gable roof also acceptable (preliminary building approval planned)
Style:
Orientation: Garden faces southwest
Maximum height/restrictions: approx. 8 meters (26 ft) (survey pending)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type - no bay windows or balconies, pitched roof
Basement: yes
Number of occupants, age - 2 adults and 2 small children
Space requirements on ground/upper floors: like the rooms shown in the plan
Office use: family use or home office? Both work about 50% from home
Annual overnight guests: regularly guest stays with children
Open or closed layout: closed upstairs, open downstairs
Conservative or modern style: undecided
Open kitchen, kitchen island - kitchen island with 2 seats
Dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes (no coal)
House Design
Who created the design:
- Planner from a construction company, modified by us
What do we like? Room sizes
What do we dislike? Master area – dressing room and bathroom are cramped. Is the hallway with the staircase practical? Kitchen on the left side is practical regarding light, but the living room won’t have sun after 7 pm in summer? Possibly rearrange the sofa in the living room for the TV
Estimated price according to architect/planner: €700,000 including basement, garages, and additional construction costs (excluding land)
Personal budget limit for house including fittings: €750,000 (€50,000 for kitchen, landscaping)
Preferred heating system: Ground-source heat pump with cooling option
Why is the design as it is?
Upstairs we need the space for 2 children’s bedrooms, a study, two bathrooms, and a utility room.
face26 schrieb:
Hello,
Is there a site plan? A plan showing the plot. Please include a north arrow.
Maybe I’m not fully awake yet, but I haven’t quite understood the orientation... left side (west?) until 9:30 PM sun/garden facing southwest?
With so many square meters, you can definitely do something with it.
- Will the bicycles fit through with a car parked in the garage?
- Parents’ walk-in closet feels awkward
- I would move the partition wall in the open space closer to the living room.
I haven’t looked at it in more detail yet... My description of the sides was also a bit awkward, see below with the surroundings and north arrow. The plot extends another 25m (82 feet) at the back, as do the neighbors’ plots. On both sides there are about 2m (6.5 feet) high hedges at the property line.
- The bicycles fit well, plus our car is smaller than the illustrated SUV.
- Yes, the parents’ walk-in closet is unfortunately one of the weak points.
- Good idea about the partition, we will consider it.
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pagoni20209 Jul 2020 10:34face26 schrieb:
I would rather make the partition wall in the open space area into the living room.Yep, and I’m also thinking about the kitchen—whether it’s sufficient as it is or if the current partition wall for tall cabinets is really necessary; that’s why I’m considering a pantry to possibly eliminate that wall. The access to the kitchen feels a bit awkward because of it. I could also imagine having it completely open, but then with light or mobile furniture, like USM Haller furniture or similar, which can be arranged freely.
Maybe a direct outside entrance to the basement would also be possible—for handyman work, dirt, guest access, etc., so you can go straight outside. Definitely one shower/WC in the basement.
In the bedroom area, there seem to be too many doors and corners for my taste.
You don’t happen to have an exterior view, do you?
With the two garages and the additional planned access doors, it feels a bit cramped to me, similar to a house squeezed between two garages; but maybe that’s just my perception.
pagoni2020 schrieb:
Yep, and I’m thinking about the kitchen, whether it’s sufficient as it is or if the current partition wall for the tall cabinets is really necessary; that’s why I’m also considering a pantry to possibly do without that wall. The kitchen access feels a bit awkward because of it.
I could basically imagine an open plan, but then with light or mobile furniture like USM Haller or similar, which can be arranged flexibly.
Maybe a direct outside entrance to the basement would be possible... for DIY work, dirt, guest access, etc., and so you could go directly outside. Definitely one shower/toilet in the basement.
In the bedroom area, there are too many doors/corners for my taste.
You don’t have an exterior view, do you?
With the two garages and the planned access doors, it feels a bit cramped to me, almost like a house between two garages; but maybe I’m mistaken. Thanks for your comments. We want a deliberate separation between the kitchen and living room areas, which is why there is a partition rather than an open connection to the living area. With the entrance to the living room, we essentially have a reception area, and the additional passage to the kitchen feels quite practical to us.
We have also consciously decided against a separate outside entrance to the basement. Guests are welcome and expected to pass through the house and use the shower on the ground floor, where the main guest room is located; the second guest room is only for emergencies.
In the bedroom area, the second door will be a sliding door, but unfortunately the issue with corners remains in the dressing room in its current form. We’re just not sure how to solve it in a better way.
Regarding the garages, it is unavoidable that we need two, and with the 18m (59 feet) width, the only sensible option is to place them on the left and right sides. But you’re right, there is a need to avoid a bulky appearance here, and the exterior design definitely requires optimization.
To be honest, I don’t know anyone who truly needs two garages. Basically, a car can get wet and even be exposed to frost without any issues.
If a double garage doesn’t fit, wouldn’t one garage be enough and the second car could park on the street?
Or perhaps a double carport placed at a 90° angle in front of the house?
If a double garage doesn’t fit, wouldn’t one garage be enough and the second car could park on the street?
Or perhaps a double carport placed at a 90° angle in front of the house?
EFH2020 schrieb:
Unfortunately, there is no other way with the garages; we need two, and because of the 18m (59 feet) width, we can only reasonably place them on the left and right sides.I find that charming. And without the obsession for symmetry—there’s definitely something to be made of that.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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