Hello dear forum,
Our ideas are slowly becoming more concrete, and we have found a floor plan that we quite like and that fits our requirements. We would love to hear your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size 518 sqm (5574 sq ft)
Slope Yes, about 2 m (6.5 ft) within the building zone, total about 3.5 m (11.5 ft), rising from the street
Floor area ratio 0.3
Plot ratio 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary approximately 13.5 x 12 m (44 x 39 ft)
Edge development As a new development area, everyone has the same specifications
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 1.5 plus a basement, which is allowed and intended to be a full floor
Roof type gable roof, shed roof
Style open construction method
Orientation north-south
Maximum heights/limits 11 m (36 ft) ridge height
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type single-family house with basement and gable roof
Basement, floors basement for living space plus 1.5 floors
Number of people, age currently a couple in their mid-30s plus a one-year-old child, more children planned
Space requirements
Ground floor: open plan living area, pantry/storage room, guest WC, 1 children’s room
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, family bathroom with bathtub, master bedroom with walk-in closet and shower bath
Basement: 2 offices, small shower bath, technical room/storage
Office: home office
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, so the office might occasionally be used as guest room
Open or closed architecture: open architecture
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: standard terrace
Garage, carport: garage, but planned for later; possibly a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility and play garden
Additional wishes/particulars: the main entrance will be moved to the basement, where the two offices are also planned. We want a high knee wall, which is why we plan a bay window to better utilize the 75% rule.
We are also still considering whether to place the main entrance on the left side of the house to make better use of space in the basement.
Furthermore, if possible, the terrace should be located above the garage on the right side of the house, as this side receives the most sun.
House Design
Who designed it: planner from a construction company plus do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? the open and bright staircase, the living and dining area because everything is very bright
What do you dislike? Why? the solution with the parents’ area on the upper floor — hard to imagine and possibly too small
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 375,000
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 400,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/ extensions
-can you do without: fireplace
-can you not give up: parents’ area with walk-in and bathroom
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? the plan is mainly the result of the spatial concept
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? good question, it’s nothing exceptional, rather practical
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What advantages or disadvantages do you see in the floor plan and design, especially regarding our large spatial concept?
Our ideas are slowly becoming more concrete, and we have found a floor plan that we quite like and that fits our requirements. We would love to hear your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size 518 sqm (5574 sq ft)
Slope Yes, about 2 m (6.5 ft) within the building zone, total about 3.5 m (11.5 ft), rising from the street
Floor area ratio 0.3
Plot ratio 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary approximately 13.5 x 12 m (44 x 39 ft)
Edge development As a new development area, everyone has the same specifications
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 1.5 plus a basement, which is allowed and intended to be a full floor
Roof type gable roof, shed roof
Style open construction method
Orientation north-south
Maximum heights/limits 11 m (36 ft) ridge height
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type single-family house with basement and gable roof
Basement, floors basement for living space plus 1.5 floors
Number of people, age currently a couple in their mid-30s plus a one-year-old child, more children planned
Space requirements
Ground floor: open plan living area, pantry/storage room, guest WC, 1 children’s room
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, family bathroom with bathtub, master bedroom with walk-in closet and shower bath
Basement: 2 offices, small shower bath, technical room/storage
Office: home office
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, so the office might occasionally be used as guest room
Open or closed architecture: open architecture
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: standard terrace
Garage, carport: garage, but planned for later; possibly a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility and play garden
Additional wishes/particulars: the main entrance will be moved to the basement, where the two offices are also planned. We want a high knee wall, which is why we plan a bay window to better utilize the 75% rule.
We are also still considering whether to place the main entrance on the left side of the house to make better use of space in the basement.
Furthermore, if possible, the terrace should be located above the garage on the right side of the house, as this side receives the most sun.
House Design
Who designed it: planner from a construction company plus do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? the open and bright staircase, the living and dining area because everything is very bright
What do you dislike? Why? the solution with the parents’ area on the upper floor — hard to imagine and possibly too small
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 375,000
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 400,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/ extensions
-can you do without: fireplace
-can you not give up: parents’ area with walk-in and bathroom
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? the plan is mainly the result of the spatial concept
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? good question, it’s nothing exceptional, rather practical
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What advantages or disadvantages do you see in the floor plan and design, especially regarding our large spatial concept?
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pagoni20209 Jul 2020 11:2811ant schrieb:
Invalid causal connection!- a connection that I would have made myself, also in view of your quote, or had made, but not as a necessarily logical consequence of your quote.Ultimately, the layout is a matter of personal preference. For example, I wouldn’t want to sleep on the lower ground floor/ground floor (UG=EG) facing the street but would prefer the upper floor (OG) facing the garden. There you can sleep with windows wide open without worrying about people or animals climbing or crawling inside.
However, I would keep it flexible:
Upper floor (OG): bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, 2 rooms (children’s rooms or offices)
Ground floor (EG): entrance with wardrobe, open-plan living area, guest toilet
Lower ground floor (UG):
In the bright section: 2 rooms (children’s rooms or offices, one room prepared for a kitchen), bathroom, second entrance
In the dark section: technical room, storage, pantry, utility room
If you are already planning two entrances now, it will be easier to separate the areas later. I would place the main entrance for guests, mail carriers, etc., preferably on the ground floor (EG).
However, I would keep it flexible:
Upper floor (OG): bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, 2 rooms (children’s rooms or offices)
Ground floor (EG): entrance with wardrobe, open-plan living area, guest toilet
Lower ground floor (UG):
In the bright section: 2 rooms (children’s rooms or offices, one room prepared for a kitchen), bathroom, second entrance
In the dark section: technical room, storage, pantry, utility room
If you are already planning two entrances now, it will be easier to separate the areas later. I would place the main entrance for guests, mail carriers, etc., preferably on the ground floor (EG).
pagoni2020 schrieb:
not necessarily a logical consequence of your quote.I was also referring to your quote. A stone or concrete basement does not necessarily mean or better imply excluding a timber frame panel house from the top of the structural height.Furthermore, I think it is misguided to build an age-adapted house in your mid-30s or, if the budget is already tight with your own wishes, to also include a separate apartment. I'm too lazy right now to browse the zoning plan, but today's new development areas usually do not allow your idea of three separate living units later on.
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pagoni20209 Jul 2020 11:54Würfel* schrieb:
you don’t have to worry about people or animals getting in or crawling insideahem... so you don’t have any animals in the garden, but you do have some in the basement, which is basically the ground floor? Terrible. I had it exactly like that for many years and found it wonderful; it was cool, quiet at night, free of animals (except for the occasional sabertooth tiger in my dreams). It’s a matter of design and personal preference. I have to stop calling these rooms "basement" from the start, because they are 100% above-ground living spaces with the same quality as other living areas.
Würfel* schrieb:
but rather on the upper floor facing the garden... but then another room would lose its connection to the garden; besides, in summer I voluntarily used the cooler bedroom anyway.P
pagoni20209 Jul 2020 12:1111ant schrieb:
I was referring to your quote. A stone or concrete basement does not necessarily mean or imply the exclusion of a wood frame panel house above the ground floor level.
Besides, I think it’s misguided to build a retirement-ready house in your mid-30s, or to include a separate apartment when your budget is already tight to meet your own requirements. I’m too lazy right now to check the local development plan, but modern residential areas usually don’t allow three housing units as you suggested for the future. Okay, I’m not familiar with the legal situation there, since it is not relevant to me.
The common measures for “age-proofing,” such as extra-wide doors, sound nice but based on my experience have turned out quite differently. My idea of “age-proofing” is more about the option to part ways with a property that no longer fits your needs.
My purpose for this thread is mainly about flexibility in changing family circumstances—whatever they may be; I’m not focusing on the parents’ retirement phase. Otherwise, you’d rather recommend a plot close to a pharmacy, care home, or cemetery. Sorry, I had that once: a school nearby and a cemetery just a little further. So peaceful, except for once or twice a month. My mother appreciated having the cemetery so easily accessible because she could visit the grave daily and even see it from the dining table. I never thought that such a circumstance could also have positive effects.
So… who knows what the future will bring…
pagoni2020 schrieb:
ahem... so you don’t have any animals in the garden, but you do have some in the basement, which is actually the ground floor?I slept for a few years on the ground floor and actually had visits from hedgehogs, neighbor’s cats, and quite a bit of crawling critters when the window was open. When my husband wasn’t around, I didn’t dare to sleep with the window open – anyone could have jumped over the fence and come in. So I really had some bad experiences.
Would a bedroom facing northeast be ideal? Children’s room / office facing south, since the view there seems unobstructed? Apparently, there is greenery on two sides – wonderful.
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