ᐅ Single-family house, 160 m² with basement, on a 500 m² plot of land
Created on: 9 Jun 2020 18:34
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Murmelstein
Hi,
We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance
We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance
M
Murmelstein9 Jul 2020 11:0411ant schrieb:
Then forget every detailed piece of advice given so far and focus on the essential emergency rescue plan, because there won’t be time for more:
1. Scroll back to the beginning of the thread and review each post individually
2. Write down every specific criticism
3. Print this list out, once for your wife and once for yourself
4. Give each of you ten adhesive dots; especially important issues get two each
5. Fixing these criticisms is the ONLY task for the planner:
the "worst" = most urgent are the points that get the highest combined score from you and your wife; ALL items without dots remain as they are or will only be fixed with the next house.
Forget the appointment with an independent architect, with so little time, better planning is not possible. Two to three months minus structural calculations, energy demand evaluation, and other details (counted from the planner’s return from vacation) is barely anything.
Use the planner’s remaining vacation time to come to terms with this approach. That’s my final word, over & out. I understand the approach above, because I do utility value analyses professionally, that has already been done a long time ago. A different approach, but there are plenty of esoteric methods out there.
In any case, we still have enough time to see 1-2 new plans from the architect. We will ask her to develop something completely free from our ideas.
In the last few days, we have kept adjusting the existing plan, and if we don’t like the new ones better, we will roughly go in the direction of the attachment. The living room is mainly for watching TV and relaxing in the evenings. We associate cooking much more with the garden and spend more time there during the day than on the sofa. Later, we will have to move the sofa to the 3.8m (12.5 ft) wall and check. But I think that’s perfectly fine. I didn’t want to create a one-way view in front of the TV, for that I have enough space in the children’s room and the basement.
Whether we want to keep our large furniture (sideboard and bookcase) is something we’ll have to decide soon. At the moment, we have rooms of about 8 to 10–15 m² (86 to 108–161 sq ft). Lots of wall space = lots of furniture. In the new house it will be open plan, so that will be challenging.
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pagoni20209 Jul 2020 11:40Murmelstein schrieb:
We definitely still have enough time to see 1-2 new plans from the architect. We will ask her to develop something completely independently of our ideas. Exactly!!!
Murmelstein schrieb:
if we don’t like the new ones better ...why wouldn’t a competent designer be able to create a nice floor plan for a completely normal house?
Murmelstein schrieb:
The living room for us is for watching TV and relaxing in the evenings. Well, that’s your individual need; therefore, this room doesn’t necessarily have to face south but should offer the perfect spot for a large TV, comfortable sofas for guests, and more kids.
Murmelstein schrieb:
We connect cooking much more with the garden and spend more time there during the day. I understand, which is why I also want direct access from the kitchen to the outdoors or the barbecue area. You can measure and test sofa distances at home or use a tape measure in a furniture store. A few centimeters more in size might already improve things; perhaps the windows are currently less suitable for this purpose because of light incidence, but that can be adjusted. Too much furniture quickly makes beautiful rooms feel cramped and loses their lightness. Less is more.
The floor plan already feels much more fluid regarding your priorities, especially since you no longer bump your knees on the fireplace—so it works well in that spot. Still, I think the designer should set your plans aside and start completely fresh. Maybe it’ll turn out to be something entirely different, perhaps even better—almost certainly!
Murmelstein schrieb:
I understand the approach above, because I professionally conduct utility analyses, it was done a long time ago.Your constant cutting and pasting in Paint on the same basic floor plan without really questioning it doesn’t look like that at all. It’s not that easy to surprise an old timer.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Murmelstein27 Jul 2020 20:51A small new idea after the holiday break. We wanted the kitchen to face the garden like this. We are still undecided about the fireplace.
The hallway has enough wall space, but a recessed area for a built-in closet would be nice. However, building corners into the living room is also inconvenient.
The hallway has enough wall space, but a recessed area for a built-in closet would be nice. However, building corners into the living room is also inconvenient.
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pagoni202027 Jul 2020 21:51Does the staircase go up? Intuitively, the entrance should probably be at the front... well... old men and feelings...
Back from vacation and immediately more trouble in the forum, huh?
I think it’s better than at the beginning, especially since the fireplace is finally no longer in the way. But the entrance really isn’t very exciting. Somehow two corridors lead off from there. I still believe that an architect’s expertise is needed here, or you could find a well-designed and functional floor plan online that can be adapted.
I like the kitchen facing the garden, but the kitchen layout seems somehow very elongated.
Back from vacation and immediately more trouble in the forum, huh?
I think it’s better than at the beginning, especially since the fireplace is finally no longer in the way. But the entrance really isn’t very exciting. Somehow two corridors lead off from there. I still believe that an architect’s expertise is needed here, or you could find a well-designed and functional floor plan online that can be adapted.
I like the kitchen facing the garden, but the kitchen layout seems somehow very elongated.
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