Hello dear forum,
Our ideas are slowly becoming more concrete, and we have found a floor plan that we quite like and that fits our requirements. We would love to hear your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size 518 sqm (5574 sq ft)
Slope Yes, about 2 m (6.5 ft) within the building zone, total about 3.5 m (11.5 ft), rising from the street
Floor area ratio 0.3
Plot ratio 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary approximately 13.5 x 12 m (44 x 39 ft)
Edge development As a new development area, everyone has the same specifications
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 1.5 plus a basement, which is allowed and intended to be a full floor
Roof type gable roof, shed roof
Style open construction method
Orientation north-south
Maximum heights/limits 11 m (36 ft) ridge height
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type single-family house with basement and gable roof
Basement, floors basement for living space plus 1.5 floors
Number of people, age currently a couple in their mid-30s plus a one-year-old child, more children planned
Space requirements
Ground floor: open plan living area, pantry/storage room, guest WC, 1 children’s room
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, family bathroom with bathtub, master bedroom with walk-in closet and shower bath
Basement: 2 offices, small shower bath, technical room/storage
Office: home office
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, so the office might occasionally be used as guest room
Open or closed architecture: open architecture
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: standard terrace
Garage, carport: garage, but planned for later; possibly a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility and play garden
Additional wishes/particulars: the main entrance will be moved to the basement, where the two offices are also planned. We want a high knee wall, which is why we plan a bay window to better utilize the 75% rule.
We are also still considering whether to place the main entrance on the left side of the house to make better use of space in the basement.
Furthermore, if possible, the terrace should be located above the garage on the right side of the house, as this side receives the most sun.
House Design
Who designed it: planner from a construction company plus do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? the open and bright staircase, the living and dining area because everything is very bright
What do you dislike? Why? the solution with the parents’ area on the upper floor — hard to imagine and possibly too small
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 375,000
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 400,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/ extensions
-can you do without: fireplace
-can you not give up: parents’ area with walk-in and bathroom
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? the plan is mainly the result of the spatial concept
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? good question, it’s nothing exceptional, rather practical
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What advantages or disadvantages do you see in the floor plan and design, especially regarding our large spatial concept?
Our ideas are slowly becoming more concrete, and we have found a floor plan that we quite like and that fits our requirements. We would love to hear your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size 518 sqm (5574 sq ft)
Slope Yes, about 2 m (6.5 ft) within the building zone, total about 3.5 m (11.5 ft), rising from the street
Floor area ratio 0.3
Plot ratio 0.6
Building zone, building line, and boundary approximately 13.5 x 12 m (44 x 39 ft)
Edge development As a new development area, everyone has the same specifications
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 1.5 plus a basement, which is allowed and intended to be a full floor
Roof type gable roof, shed roof
Style open construction method
Orientation north-south
Maximum heights/limits 11 m (36 ft) ridge height
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type single-family house with basement and gable roof
Basement, floors basement for living space plus 1.5 floors
Number of people, age currently a couple in their mid-30s plus a one-year-old child, more children planned
Space requirements
Ground floor: open plan living area, pantry/storage room, guest WC, 1 children’s room
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, family bathroom with bathtub, master bedroom with walk-in closet and shower bath
Basement: 2 offices, small shower bath, technical room/storage
Office: home office
Guest sleeping per year: rarely, so the office might occasionally be used as guest room
Open or closed architecture: open architecture
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: at least 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: standard terrace
Garage, carport: garage, but planned for later; possibly a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility and play garden
Additional wishes/particulars: the main entrance will be moved to the basement, where the two offices are also planned. We want a high knee wall, which is why we plan a bay window to better utilize the 75% rule.
We are also still considering whether to place the main entrance on the left side of the house to make better use of space in the basement.
Furthermore, if possible, the terrace should be located above the garage on the right side of the house, as this side receives the most sun.
House Design
Who designed it: planner from a construction company plus do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? the open and bright staircase, the living and dining area because everything is very bright
What do you dislike? Why? the solution with the parents’ area on the upper floor — hard to imagine and possibly too small
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 375,000
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 400,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/ extensions
-can you do without: fireplace
-can you not give up: parents’ area with walk-in and bathroom
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
Standard design by the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? the plan is mainly the result of the spatial concept
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? good question, it’s nothing exceptional, rather practical
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
What advantages or disadvantages do you see in the floor plan and design, especially regarding our large spatial concept?
Thirteen schrieb:
It would have been nice if you had read the other posts here... There are no 4 showers in the house. Nor two technical rooms... My bad. I only looked at the first floor plan and missed the part about the showers!
Thirteen schrieb:
Do you have any tips for the entrance area? First of all, the staircase surprises me. I can’t really picture how it will look visually later on. In terms of cost, that element is probably several thousand dollars more expensive. Half-turn staircases are usually niche solutions. Why not a quarter-turn staircase? You can easily integrate a coat closet there, by the way. However, the upper floor would also need to be adjusted then. Which I think makes sense, since the hallway on the upper floor is one of the biggest rooms in the house. A space that is used 99% of the time just as a passageway.
A door from the kitchen/pantry would be more convenient, although not essential.
These are not really complete solutions either. The problem is that highlighting weaknesses in one floor plan creates various other problems. So sometimes starting over is the better option.
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Ypsi aus NI8 Jul 2020 20:19If you place the utility room in the basement, you could design the cloakroom more spaciously. I also find it too small.
Alternatively, you could position the staircase as a U-shaped landing staircase where the utility room is currently planned. This would allow you to narrow the hallway and create a different staircase access upstairs, which might lead to a smaller corridor area on the upper floor.
How basement-like will the basement feel?
I also think it would be great to have the bedroom with bathroom and walk-in closet in the basement. On the ground floor, one or possibly two small home offices, and the upper floor solely for the children.
Alternatively, you could position the staircase as a U-shaped landing staircase where the utility room is currently planned. This would allow you to narrow the hallway and create a different staircase access upstairs, which might lead to a smaller corridor area on the upper floor.
How basement-like will the basement feel?
I also think it would be great to have the bedroom with bathroom and walk-in closet in the basement. On the ground floor, one or possibly two small home offices, and the upper floor solely for the children.
Currently, this is the modified floor plan from a prefabricated house supplier. The question is how easy it would be to change the staircase here.
The basement is intended to be developed as a living basement, at least in the front area facing the street. We might also do some of the work ourselves here.
The bedroom in the basement is inconvenient because the children are still small or babies. Of course, as long as the kids are small, they can share a room in the basement.
But even when they are a bit older, I’m not keen on them having to walk through the dark whole house if, for example, they have a nightmare at night.
Sure. But how to proceed? Currently, we only have offers from prefabricated house manufacturers. The two local general contractors quoted prices that are significantly above our budget. We are still waiting on others. We are a bit unsure about the right approach if we want to build "ourselves" and not with prefabricated house manufacturers.
The basement is intended to be developed as a living basement, at least in the front area facing the street. We might also do some of the work ourselves here.
The bedroom in the basement is inconvenient because the children are still small or babies. Of course, as long as the kids are small, they can share a room in the basement.
But even when they are a bit older, I’m not keen on them having to walk through the dark whole house if, for example, they have a nightmare at night.
danixf schrieb:
So richtige Lösungen sind es auch nicht. Das Problem ist, dass durch Aufzeigen von Schwächen in einem Grundriss diverse andere Probleme entstehen. Daher ist manchmal ein Neuanfang besser.
Sure. But how to proceed? Currently, we only have offers from prefabricated house manufacturers. The two local general contractors quoted prices that are significantly above our budget. We are still waiting on others. We are a bit unsure about the right approach if we want to build "ourselves" and not with prefabricated house manufacturers.
Thirteen schrieb:
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but so far all suppliers have said the same. Here is the excerpt from the development plan. Ah… okay… as long as you know what that means… I don’t
Thirteen schrieb:
At the moment, we only have offers from prefabricated house manufacturers. However, with prefab house manufacturers, there are quite a few additional costs. On average, they are more expensive than traditional masonry houses.
A house with a basement that is partially below ground isn’t really my thing, so I’ll stay out of this.
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Ypsi aus NI8 Jul 2020 21:15Try writing down your room layout. Which rooms are on which floor, and how many square meters (square feet) do they have? Do the individual floors fit well together? Based on your ideas, I don’t think so.
I understand your point about the children and the long distance. You already have one child and you’re talking about more children, so three in total. One of them would then have their room on a different floor, separate from the others. Would the child be happy with that?
Is this an option:
Upper floor for children
Ground floor for parents, technical rooms, and work
Basement for living and kitchen
?
Why shouldn’t you be able to change the staircase? The advantage of standard houses is mainly that they have already been fully calculated. Changing the floor plan doesn’t necessarily lead to a higher price. At least, that’s been our experience.
I understand your point about the children and the long distance. You already have one child and you’re talking about more children, so three in total. One of them would then have their room on a different floor, separate from the others. Would the child be happy with that?
Is this an option:
Upper floor for children
Ground floor for parents, technical rooms, and work
Basement for living and kitchen
?
Why shouldn’t you be able to change the staircase? The advantage of standard houses is mainly that they have already been fully calculated. Changing the floor plan doesn’t necessarily lead to a higher price. At least, that’s been our experience.
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