ᐅ Single-family house, 160 m² with basement, on a 500 m² plot of land
Created on: 9 Jun 2020 18:34
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Murmelstein
Hi,
We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance
We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance
Murmelstein schrieb:
I thought we were talking about five-figure sums for a design. Maybe I misunderstand architects’ fee rates. Is there a platform to find architects? Good planning costs money, although less than it’s worth. Yes, architects’ chambers have had websites forever.
Murmelstein schrieb:
My planner insists that the straight staircase in that position creates the best layout on the upper floor. Absolutely nonsense. The key criterion for the upper floor layout is the location of the staircase exit; the exact staircase route is not the essential factor.
Murmelstein schrieb:
The rooms on the upper floor were our requirement, and that was the only thing that mattered to us initially: 3 children’s bedrooms, The number of conditions limits the number of solutions. We don’t even know if the children are triplets or spaced ten years apart. With that, there’s no other way to plan than placing the garage on the left and having a complex floor plan.
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Murmelstein8 Jul 2020 15:4111ant schrieb:
We don’t even know if the children are triplets or spread out over ten years But that wasn’t a question in your "10 Commandments" of the questionnaire. The children are 0, 4, and 6 years old.
11ant schrieb:
Absolute nonsense. The key to the upper floor layout lies in the position of the exit; the staircase layout itself is not decisive Since the upper floor is supposed to be built over the garage (otherwise the garage will be too small for us), a landing staircase naturally works less well, because it takes up its cross-section from the upper floor. I’m trying it out myself and realize it’s really not ideal.
11ant schrieb:
Good planning costs money, even if less than it’s worth. Yes, architect chambers have had websites forever. Until now, I thought that a building consultant offering architect-designed houses is an alternative. As I understand it, I would use phases 1 and 2 of an independent architect. That’s 10% of the fee, so about 2,500–3,500 € (euros).
I’ll start scheduling appointments then.
Murmelstein schrieb:
I used to think that a building company offering architect-designed houses could be a good alternative. The idea probably refers to custom planning, just as a distinction from a catalog house that is merely mirrored or has shifted interior walls. Pure catalog houses do not work if the market only offers non-catalog plots. However, that alone does not automatically make custom planning better. Murmelstein schrieb:
Then I will start scheduling appointments. You have already been encouraged several times to challenge the designer more and try the method of providing fewer specifications to achieve better results. I think you might actually need a hearing aid.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Murmelstein8 Jul 2020 15:5711ant schrieb:
It probably refers to a custom design, just to distinguish it from a mirrored or slightly modified catalog house. Pure catalog homes don’t work when the market only offers non-catalog plots. But that doesn’t automatically make a custom design any better.
You have already been encouraged several times to let the planner work harder and try the method of providing fewer specifications to achieve better results. I think you might need a hearing aid I’ve already understood you all... She just isn’t willing to put in the effort... her boss is on vacation. If not him, in 3 weeks I’ll have to tell her to hand it over to an independent architect, then she’ll have to work hard, but I don’t want to waste these 3 weeks completely.
What we have here was not created based on my sketch! As I said, we only specified the rooms on the upper floor, the number of bathrooms and offices in the basement. Oh, and the garage interior width should be at least 3.20m (10.5 ft), preferably 3.80m (12.5 ft). That was all.
Now I see the plan and I’m dissatisfied. I can’t exactly tell her “please use spontaneous amnesia and create a new plan with the same specifications,” can I? Maybe I should actually say that...
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Murmelstein8 Jul 2020 16:01To be honest, I was hoping that one of the planning experts here would create a rough counter-sketch so I could then "help" with it.
But you say you are missing information, yet I still don’t fully understand exactly which information is needed... Is the site plan with the building area marked above not enough? Should I add more dimensions there?
But you say you are missing information, yet I still don’t fully understand exactly which information is needed... Is the site plan with the building area marked above not enough? Should I add more dimensions there?
Murmelstein schrieb:
Now that I see the plan, I’m not satisfied. I can’t just tell her to suddenly have amnesia and come up with a new plan using the same specifications, right? Or maybe that’s exactly what I should say... It would definitely have a much better chance than trying to fix a crooked seam by bending it in several places.
Murmelstein schrieb:
Honestly, I was hoping one of the planning geniuses here would make a “dirty” counter-sketch so I could then “help” her with it. No chance. Kerstin is apparently just not bored enough right now, and Katja was driven off by higher-ups. I can draw even more “beautifully” than I can sing *LOL*
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