Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas


We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
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neo-sciliar8 Jul 2020 12:52pagoni2020 schrieb:
Sorry, but I can't follow you there.
I don't know this company, but their references include very stylish houses (in my humble opinion), like "Unterreichenbach," for example. At least to me, that shows the company understands modern taste and can apparently deliver it.
Of course, there are different opinions on what makes something "special" or "run-of-the-mill," and I don't know how you justify your "20-year statement." You have already received some good tips in the forum.
I would really be interested, in general, in what "special" means to you or what you consider "run-of-the-mill." Which reference and manufacturer are you talking about?
To me, run-of-the-mill is: front door, stairs on the left, guest toilet behind, pantry and kitchen on the right, followed by a large combined living and dining area. Upstairs, two kids' rooms, parents’ walk-in closet, and bathroom.
We are considering:
- Parents’ bedroom and bathroom downstairs (similar to a bungalow), with no huge living room downstairs but rather a sitting area, and the TV room as a separate space upstairs.
- No separate dining room but a table in or adjacent to the kitchen
- Terrace not connected to the living room but to the kitchen
These kinds of ideas, and of course many more new ideas.
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pagoni20208 Jul 2020 13:05neo-sciliar schrieb:
Which manufacturer's reference are you talking about?
For me, a standard layout is: front door, stairs on the left, guest toilet behind, pantry and kitchen on the right, followed by a large living and dining area. Upstairs, two children’s rooms, parents' walk-in closet, and bathroom.
We are considering:
- Moving the master bedroom and bathroom to the ground floor (similar to a bungalow), with no large living room downstairs, but a seating corner and a separate TV room upstairs instead.
- No formal dining room, but a table in or adjacent to the kitchen
- Terrace connected to the kitchen, not the living room
These are the kinds of topics, and of course many more new ideas. The references I just described to you exactly, such as "Haus Unterreichenbach". One click leads to the next attractive house with a modern floor plan, next click and so on... quite a few of them.
Sure, that approach is possible, but does that automatically mean it’s modern? It’s more a matter of how the existing space is used. There are living-bedroom combinations, kitchens with integrated lounge areas, terraces wrapping around the entire house, and so on, but that doesn’t make it more or less modern or standard.
Some might get goosebumps at the idea of having only a terrace in front of the kitchen or would miss a nicely designed dining room with a fireplace and wine bar, for example.
You say you are “considering” these options, and that’s exactly how it should be. However, your taste might be considered conventional or standard by someone else. What you describe has been done—partly by me—30 years ago, and it was and still is perfectly fine.
The idea of “standard” or “outdated for 20 years” is purely your personal impression, and that’s okay. But you shouldn’t use that label to dismiss other current tastes that some perceive as modern.
What you’re thinking about can certainly be done, just as others want a rooftop balcony or a sauna in the bathroom. But unfortunately, I don’t see any innovation, notable modernity, or a quantum leap in your idea.
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pagoni20208 Jul 2020 13:12Ibdk14 schrieb:
Maybe Neo simply didn’t find the construction company you built with. That’s how it is for me at least, so I don’t see any reference houses either. Perhaps it’s all just a misunderstanding??? That may be the case, but then it’s more likely due to "not reading carefully."
haydee schrieb:
We live House builds custom solid wood houses That’s exactly what is written here. As I mentioned before, you have to enter precisely THAT into Google, and I even mentioned the reference house by name — it’s called Oberreichenbach instead of Unterreichenbach.
This company has obviously invested a considerable amount in SEO measures to be well found on Google. So it really shouldn’t be missed… you just can’t miss it if you enter the words exactly as @haydee wrote them: “We - live - House.” Also, @neo-sciliar wrote that someone from their side is already drawing, or am I misunderstanding that?
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neo-sciliar8 Jul 2020 13:13pagoni2020 schrieb:
Those references I just described to you exactly, like "Haus Unterreichenbach." One click further is the next nice house with a modern floor plan, next click and so on... there are many of them.
Of course, you can do it that way, but does that really make it modern? It’s more a question of how the existing space is used. There are living bedrooms, kitchens with integrated relaxation areas, terraces all around the house, and so on, but that doesn’t necessarily make it more or less modern or less standard.
Some people get goosebumps just thinking about having only a terrace in front of the kitchen or would miss a nicely designed dining room with a fireplace and wine bar, etc.
You say you are "considering it," and that’s exactly how it should be. But because of that, your taste can seem conventional or ordinary to someone else. What you describe is something I or others have had in some form 30 years ago and it was and still is perfectly fine.
The “standard” and “20 years” thing is your personal impression, and that’s okay. However, you shouldn’t use that as a way to dismiss other current tastes that are perceived as modern.
What you’re thinking of can be done, just like someone else might want a roof balcony or a sauna in the bathroom. But I can’t see any innovation, outstanding modernity, or a real breakthrough in your idea, unfortunately. I don’t follow, I can’t find a description of references from you... maybe I’m blind.
And by "standard" I didn’t mean anything negative or demeaning. I didn’t mention “conventional.”
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neo-sciliar8 Jul 2020 13:16pagoni2020 schrieb:
That may be the case, but it is more likely due to "not reading carefully."
It is clearly written here. As I mentioned afterwards, you have to enter EXACTLY THAT into Google, and I even mentioned the reference house by name—it is Oberreichenbach, not Unterreichenbach.
This company has obviously invested a significant amount of money in SEO measures to be easily found on Google. So, you really shouldn’t miss it... you won’t, if you enter the words exactly as @haydee wrote them: "We - live - house." Also, @neo-sciliar wrote that someone from their team is already doing the drawings, or am I misunderstanding that? I got it—you are referring to Haydee and not to one of your own posts, and the incorrect house name causes misunderstandings.
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