ᐅ Single-family house, 160 m² with basement, on a 500 m² plot of land
Created on: 9 Jun 2020 18:34
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Murmelstein
Hi,
We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance



We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.
We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.
We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.
The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.
I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.
In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.
I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.
I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).
I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.
What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.
I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.
Thanks in advance
Murmelstein schrieb:
Not that I wanted to offend you with anything, but apparently I did... what is a site plan? You don’t have to.
In the end, there’s no need to argue about terminology. The main point is: the more information you provide, the better we can respond to your design. Less information means less feedback. Sigh... it’s all basically in the pinned posts. If they’re not read, that’s nobody’s fault here.
No one is going to lose sleep over your north arrow either.
Wishing you all a pleasant evening
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Murmelstein7 Jul 2020 20:08ypg schrieb:
You don’t have to.Oh well...
So, I reviewed my original post as well as about a hundred other threads you’ve helped with. I honestly don’t see what’s missing. Maybe it’s just my ignorance or my current stress level. If there were trees in a new development, I’d consider moving there. Otherwise, the cardinal directions are shown, the building envelope, neighboring garages, and the roads. So, what information do you think is missing?
Since I don’t have a proper computer today, I played around with Paint. Is it really so unusual to place the kitchen facing the garden and the living room on the northwest side? I’m attaching my rough draft here in case anyone is interested.
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Ypsi aus NI7 Jul 2020 20:30Murmelstein schrieb:
Is it completely unusual to build the kitchen facing the garden and the living room on the northwest side? Not for me!
It really depends on what you want from the living room. For me, the living area consists of the sofa and TV corner— a space we use privately, not with family, friends, or guests. The living room is a retreat, a place to end the day. In that sense, I find a spot with less natural light perfectly suitable for it.
The kitchen, on the other hand, as the heart of the home and a central hub for everything and everyone, should ideally be oriented with access to the garden.
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pagoni20207 Jul 2020 20:59Murmelstein schrieb:
I had filled out the questionnaire as much as I could. Which information are you still missing?
Also, everyone should be allowed to keep some of their remaining privacy on the internet, right? Who knows who might be reading here... Well @Murmelstein, a maximum possible result is only achievable with maximum information. It is always very difficult to understand someone’s personal perspective, and just as hard to imagine a place as a whole without having all the available details.
By the way: As soon as you have an internet connection and/or a mobile phone, or your family does, you can basically remove the word privacy from your vocabulary.
You could post your name, address, blood type, and a picture of yourself here in the forum—and you would still be light-years away from the amount of data you VOLUNTARILY share every day. For example, your local registration office legally sells your data... just for your information.
You should worry less about those who are “just reading” here... and I believe no one here really cares about your privacy, which you actually damage yourself from the start by sharing your private life.
So... without maximum information, you should not expect a good result; but that is your own decision.
I just saw your last post and can only shake my head about what you are worried about at this stage.
Get a qualified professional on your side, and first consult an architect or planner—otherwise, you will face many problems during construction.
Forget about the window in the guest bathroom or the door to the garage.
Stop, find an architect or a good planner who will advise you—don’t be the one who tells them—and then things can work out.
And get rid of the three sinks in the bathroom—that’s where the nonsense starts.
I can only agree with that.
Also, this lineup of sinks... somewhat reminds me of the Seven Dwarfs.
Take a look at what you posted here in the first post. It’s now a screenshot, with the north arrow, a cardinal direction, a street, and a neighboring garage in the top right corner... but you refer to all of these in the plural.
In the end, it doesn’t really matter, but I still don’t see the building permit area / planning permission zone (on my phone), which would make sense for the house dimensions. It would also be interesting to know what kind of street this is: a through street in a residential area, a dead end, how many neighbors or outsiders pass through?
Is everything already built, and does the neighbor also have a house next to the garage that could block your sunlight?
I can’t even see the lot. It may be perfectly clear to you because you know it, but we see a somewhat faded area that probably represents paving. How much space remains on the right side is not visible. It’s also possible that I’m missing the forest for the trees, which has happened before. The other posts don’t look any different.
For $680 (680 US dollars), I have noted a whole roster of architects and have already spoken to a few. You should hire one.

Also, this lineup of sinks... somewhat reminds me of the Seven Dwarfs.
Murmelstein schrieb:
Otherwise, you can see the cardinal directions, the building permit area / planning permission zone, the neighboring garages, as well as the streets. So, which information do you find missing?
Take a look at what you posted here in the first post. It’s now a screenshot, with the north arrow, a cardinal direction, a street, and a neighboring garage in the top right corner... but you refer to all of these in the plural.
In the end, it doesn’t really matter, but I still don’t see the building permit area / planning permission zone (on my phone), which would make sense for the house dimensions. It would also be interesting to know what kind of street this is: a through street in a residential area, a dead end, how many neighbors or outsiders pass through?
Is everything already built, and does the neighbor also have a house next to the garage that could block your sunlight?
I can’t even see the lot. It may be perfectly clear to you because you know it, but we see a somewhat faded area that probably represents paving. How much space remains on the right side is not visible. It’s also possible that I’m missing the forest for the trees, which has happened before. The other posts don’t look any different.
For $680 (680 US dollars), I have noted a whole roster of architects and have already spoken to a few. You should hire one.
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Murmelstein8 Jul 2020 14:56ypg schrieb:
I can only agree with that.
Also, that row of sinks… it kind of reminds me of the seven dwarfs.
Take a look at what you posted in the first message. Now it’s just a screenshot, but in the top right corner there should be a north arrow, a compass direction, a street, a neighboring garage... and you refer to all of them in the plural.
In the end, it doesn’t really matter, but I still don’t see the building envelope you mentioned (on my phone), which would be helpful to understand the house size. It would also be interesting to know what kind of street that is: a through street in a residential area, a dead end, how many neighbors or strangers walk by?
Is everything already built around? Does the neighbor also have a house next to the garage that might block your sunlight?
I don’t even see the plot. It might be clear to you because you know it, but to us it looks like a somewhat faded area representing paving. How much space is left on the right side is not visible. It’s also possible that I’m missing the forest for the trees, which has happened before. The other posts don’t look any different.
For 680 bucks, I have noted a whole list of architects and have already talked to a few. Get one.
I already posted this earlier in the thread, but here is the plot with the building envelope and the neighboring garages. The only neighboring house is next to the left garage. Otherwise, there are no other houses within a 30-meter (33 yards) radius that could block my sunlight. The north arrow is included here as well.
Since my building planner is really slow, I am seriously thinking about consulting an architect. I thought we were talking about five-figure sums for planning. Maybe I’m misunderstanding the architects’ fees. Is there a platform to find architects?
The thing with the three sinks was more a joke than serious. My planner insists firmly that the straight staircase in that position creates the best layout on the upper floor. Since I don’t have any tools to redesign it, I was hoping for your help. The garage width and the building envelope already limit a lot. The rooms on the upper floor were our requirement and that was also the only thing important to us initially: 3 children’s bedrooms, a separate parents’ area with its own bathroom. Basement: 2 offices and possibly a small hobby room.
On the ground floor, I think there just aren’t that many options.
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