ᐅ Single-family house, 160 m² with basement, on a 500 m² plot of land

Created on: 9 Jun 2020 18:34
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Murmelstein
Hi,

We have a 500m2 (5400 sq ft) plot where we would like to build.

We have now received the initial plans from our preferred construction company.

We need a basement because my wife and I both work from home, and we have three children who should each have their own room.

The attic is not really a good option due to the small dormer window and a building height limit of 9 meters (30 ft). The basement is quite expensive because of the clay soil, but in the end, we decided in favor of the basement, and the first financing simulations fit approximately a $680,000 build cost including additional construction expenses. The land is not included, of course.

I think the plans are already quite good, but I don’t have much expertise. A master bathroom was our request. The guest bathroom on the ground floor is there because we often have guests staying with us.

In my opinion, the pantry can be left out.

I planned the upstairs hallway once larger and once smaller to allow for a bigger children’s bathroom.

I miss the external staircase to the basement. If the stairs were on the right side, it would allow for "normal" windows in the basement offices. I have pointed this out. Also, the street runs roughly along the house from left to right and drops about one meter (3 ft).

I’m not sure about the layout of the "fitness" room; I think it might be structurally necessary. I want to bother the architect only once we are 100% sure we are going with this construction company.

What I generally don't like right now is that generic feel when looking at it, but the house is simply a standard two-story with a 30° pitched roof.

I would really like to know from your experience whether this covered terrace is a good idea or not.

Thanks in advance

Grundriss eines Hauses: Zimmer (Fitness, Spiel, Büro), Flur, Küche, Parkplatz rechts.


Grundriss Obergeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, drei Kinderzimmer, Bad und Flur.


Grundriss des Obergeschosses: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, drei Kinderzimmer, Flur, Bad.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Garage, Terrasse, Wohn- und Essbereich, Küche und Diele.
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pagoni2020
6 Jul 2020 15:53
Murmelstein schrieb:

Yes, that’s true. I’ve never been in a house and thought, “This is such a beautiful bedroom, I want to sign up for welfare and stay in bed for five years.”

No, certainly not, but you can create a cozy bedroom or a comfortable bathroom. Both can be equally appealing, depending on personal taste. Bathrooms are often darker, but that really depends on the individual.
Yes – you should make sure that YOUR priorities are established; whether others understand them doesn’t matter. Still (from frequent personal experience), people sometimes focus too much on a specific ideal (a glass of champagne in the bathtub, a sunset at some place, or what my friends said…) and sacrifice other things for it.
It’s worth being very honest with yourself and figuring out what truly fits you. Then commit to that consistently. Consider every idea openly, even if it sounds silly. You don’t have to do any of it, but thinking and feeling about it can help clarify your own dreams.
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Murmelstein
6 Jul 2020 15:58
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Certainly not, but you can create a cozy bedroom or a bathroom that also feels like a living space. Both are equally nice, depending on personal preference. Bathing is often done in a darker setting, but that also depends on the individual.
Yes – you should definitely make sure your OWN priorities are established; it doesn't matter if others understand them or not. Still (from frequent personal experience), sometimes people become too focused and have a fixed ideal in mind (a glass of sparkling wine in the bathtub, sunset views somewhere, or what my friends said…) and sacrifice other things for it.
It’s worthwhile to be very honest with yourself and figure out what really fits. Then implement it consistently. Always consider every idea with an open mind, even if it sounds silly. You don’t have to do any of it, but thinking and feeling it through can help clarify your own vision.

Yes, that’s true. We are trying to put our wishes on paper without driving the architect of the building permit/planning permission crazy. But at least we now have a version that creates a certain "warmth." My main problems right now are with the entrance hall, which practically has no space for shoes, coats, etc. Everything else are just "details."

Of course, I could reduce the garage width, but I fear we will need more distance from the neighbor on the left side than currently shown, so right now we theoretically have 3.80 m (12.5 feet). It will probably be closer to 3.40 m (11 feet).

As I said, I don’t want to share a wall with the children’s room, and I find having a view from the bathtub more practical than from the bedroom. But I’m afraid that the covered terrace on the ground floor will prevent a bathroom on that side. Then, we might have to use a thicker wall for soundproofing towards the children’s room.
11ant6 Jul 2020 16:22
Murmelstein schrieb:

I have never been in a house and thought: "This is such a beautiful bedroom, I want to register for social welfare here and stay in bed for 5 years."
Especially when you can afford breakfast beyond basic welfare benefits, it’s nice to stay in bed a little longer after waking up, with or without a stock ticker. You can even watch Formula 1 or tennis from there.
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Murmelstein
6 Jul 2020 16:35
11ant schrieb:

Especially when you can afford breakfast costing more than basic welfare benefits, it’s nice to linger in bed after waking up; with or without the stock ticker. You can even watch Formula 1 or tennis there.

I would be less upset about swapping the bathroom and bedroom than the current hallway situation. Right now, when you enter, there are only doors and stairs—no space for shoes, a doormat, or anything similar.
11ant6 Jul 2020 16:56
Murmelstein schrieb:

I would be less disappointed about swapping the bathroom and bedroom than about the current hallway situation.
Switching the bathroom and bedroom makes me think of plumbing stacks; I’m not quite following the mental jump to the hallway situation (???).
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Würfel*
6 Jul 2020 17:02
Hello Murmelstein,

We also have a slightly trapezoidal-shaped lot and built a custom trapezoidal garage using timber frame construction. It wasn’t more expensive than a prefabricated garage and makes optimal use of the space.

Why don’t you move the garage right up to the boundary (this dirty strip is probably not allowed anyway?) and set the house back less? That way, you’ll gain significantly more space in the kitchen and dining area. The living room will be a bit smaller, but you can furnish it differently (and better). You don’t want to sit next to the fireplace, but you do want to be able to see it.

Regarding your hallway issue: turn the storage room into a generous cloakroom. You have a huge basement and a large kitchen! I would also consider removing the passage to the garage. You can still enter the house without getting your feet wet.

On the upper floor, place the stairs on the other side, next to child 3’s room and the children’s bathroom. The stair exit would then be on the right. That way, the rooms align vertically as needed.


Floor plan: Ground floor with living room, kitchen, dining area, hallway, cloakroom, garage, terrace.