Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
sciliar schrieb:
It was about room layout and floor plan design. What else is there to say here? The repeated advice to consult an architect is being ignored.
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Space requirements on the ground floor and upper floor: see the plan. I see a plan with at least one-third of the area being unnecessary. Or the furnishing doesn’t fit properly. Something’s not right.
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open, kitchen island optional, important: don’t cook with your back to the room. Open-plan kitchen/living area. I see a tiny kitchen, as small as the shower toilet... in an apparently very large room that only looks that way…
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 450k, possibly 500k. How large is it supposed to be?
neo-sciliar schrieb:
Staircase in the center for short routes. Somehow it’s in the way. Is it a freestanding staircase? What about load-bearing walls?
neo-sciliar schrieb:
The room at the back left is intended to be the utility room behind the carport, outside the building envelope. Large, as it should also serve as a garden equipment storage room. Are the pipes supposed to freeze? Building services must be inside the thermal envelope!
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pagoni202015 Jun 2020 19:59sciliar schrieb:
We have built once before and quickly realized that the architect hadn’t considered many details. Now I have looked at many floor plans. They almost all have a combined living-dining room, which is exactly what we don’t want. We want a eat-in kitchen and a separate living room. Fortunately, from my first build, I learned to involve an interior designer. Often you know one personally or you can find someone nearby who can create one or two rough initial drafts for a reasonable price. These drafts should include ALL YOUR wishes and needs. The floor plan has to work for me; everything else is, in my opinion, secondary. The implementation or creative idea is something a trained interior designer has down pat. Only then would I start making adjustments myself, tailoring the many small details to suit my needs (or have them tailored). I am currently planning/building for old age and am following the same approach. We are continuously drawing and planning, but the main concept comes from someone else, based on my wishes and requirements.
A profession and a true calling are not the same thing, and I often find it surprising how some so-called “trained” professionals can lack talent. That’s why I wouldn’t be overly optimistic right away. Besides, this forum sometimes shows that successful floor plans don’t necessarily depend on credentialed experts. (Of course, that can still work out, but I wouldn’t place unconditional trust in any professional title—this applies beyond just the construction industry.)
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pagoni202015 Jun 2020 20:25My goodness, quite a heavy artillery.
First of all, you don’t just get the title of architect at a fair stall—it is usually a profession chosen freely, unlike some others who pick their job solely based on salary or commuting time.
But of course, just like in any profession, including yours or mine, there are all kinds of people. Unlike a government office, I can freely choose the architect here, so if anything goes wrong, it’s usually my own choice. Based on references or initial ideas, I can still make my own decision or change later on. It’s not about unconditional acceptance, quite the opposite actually. The condition is precisely that they design something that fits me and that I, as a layperson (which we mostly are here!), would never have come up with myself. Floor plans are available by the thousands online or from prefabricated house suppliers; these are all “tried and tested” and work. The focus is on individuality that suits me and my land.
First of all, you don’t just get the title of architect at a fair stall—it is usually a profession chosen freely, unlike some others who pick their job solely based on salary or commuting time.
But of course, just like in any profession, including yours or mine, there are all kinds of people. Unlike a government office, I can freely choose the architect here, so if anything goes wrong, it’s usually my own choice. Based on references or initial ideas, I can still make my own decision or change later on. It’s not about unconditional acceptance, quite the opposite actually. The condition is precisely that they design something that fits me and that I, as a layperson (which we mostly are here!), would never have come up with myself. Floor plans are available by the thousands online or from prefabricated house suppliers; these are all “tried and tested” and work. The focus is on individuality that suits me and my land.
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neo-sciliar15 Jun 2020 20:26ypg schrieb:
What else is there to say here? The repeated advice to consult an architect is not being followed.
I see a design with at least one-third unnecessary space. Or the furniture layout just doesn’t work properly. Something’s off.
I see a tiny kitchen, as small as the shower toilet... In a seemingly huge room that only appears that way...
How big is it supposed to be?
Somehow it’s in the way. Is it freestanding? What about load-bearing walls?
Are the pipes going to freeze?
Building services need to be within the thermal envelope! Hello,
Thanks first of all.
The house in the current design is 11.50 meters (38 feet) wide by 13 meters (43 feet) deep.
The kitchen furniture is already drawn in. Yes, it’s not a separate room. There is more of a small reception area (which was adjusted in the layout due to the shower toilet), and then the hallway, kitchen, and dining area form one large room.
The staircase would be framed by walls, basically enclosed.
Where exactly don’t the furniture fit?
Regards, sciliar
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