Hello dear forum members,
Please excuse the somewhat anecdotal style at the beginning of this post. The underlying question is genuinely serious.
My partner and I recently visited a kitchen specialist retailer. Apart from the fact that all the warnings regarding the budget proved true (15,000 EUR instead of 10,000 EUR), it was a pleasant experience.
During the initial discussion, the topic eventually turned to dishwashers and how ours is almost always full, either with dirty or clean dishes. The kitchen fitter joked that we might need two. We laughed and continued planning as usual, of course with just one.
A few days later, I’m still thinking about it. There might actually be something to it.
You load the dishwasher until it’s full, and when it finally finishes after about 2 hours, you unload everything only to put dishes back in 15 minutes later, which then get used again and put back in another 15 minutes later.
In our case, it often happens that we take half of the dishes directly from the dishwasher for immediate use. When the dishwasher really needs to be emptied, it’s usually because there’s new used crockery, and by then, there isn’t much left inside.
Could it actually make sense to have two dishwashers from this perspective? You save one unloading process into cabinets that, it feels, only store half of the dishes they’re meant to hold anyway. A dishwasher with two pull-out racks and a cutlery tray already offers quite a bit of capacity. Two wouldn’t take up that much more space or be that much more expensive...
This mainly applies to regularly used dishes, cutlery, and “normal” pans and pots.
Specialty cookware like the asparagus pot and crepe pan would still have to be put away normally.
Aside from the fact that it goes against all traditional habits...
Is this a crazy idea or a concept worth considering?
Good luck
Tolentino
Please excuse the somewhat anecdotal style at the beginning of this post. The underlying question is genuinely serious.
My partner and I recently visited a kitchen specialist retailer. Apart from the fact that all the warnings regarding the budget proved true (15,000 EUR instead of 10,000 EUR), it was a pleasant experience.
During the initial discussion, the topic eventually turned to dishwashers and how ours is almost always full, either with dirty or clean dishes. The kitchen fitter joked that we might need two. We laughed and continued planning as usual, of course with just one.
A few days later, I’m still thinking about it. There might actually be something to it.
You load the dishwasher until it’s full, and when it finally finishes after about 2 hours, you unload everything only to put dishes back in 15 minutes later, which then get used again and put back in another 15 minutes later.
In our case, it often happens that we take half of the dishes directly from the dishwasher for immediate use. When the dishwasher really needs to be emptied, it’s usually because there’s new used crockery, and by then, there isn’t much left inside.
Could it actually make sense to have two dishwashers from this perspective? You save one unloading process into cabinets that, it feels, only store half of the dishes they’re meant to hold anyway. A dishwasher with two pull-out racks and a cutlery tray already offers quite a bit of capacity. Two wouldn’t take up that much more space or be that much more expensive...
This mainly applies to regularly used dishes, cutlery, and “normal” pans and pots.
Specialty cookware like the asparagus pot and crepe pan would still have to be put away normally.
Aside from the fact that it goes against all traditional habits...
Is this a crazy idea or a concept worth considering?
Good luck
Tolentino
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Matthew035 Jun 2020 09:24If you have the space in your plans and the budget for it: why not? Having is better than needing. Sometimes I also wished for a second one; in our daily routine, things run pretty much the same way as they do for you...
Matthew03 schrieb:
If you have the space in the design and the budget for it: why not?Based on my current offer, I have a 120cm (47 inch) pull-out cabinet for 780 EUR.
I would replace this with a second dishwasher (one is already included) plus a 60cm (24 inch) base cabinet. The dishwasher costs 600 EUR including the front panel.
Right now, I don’t have a 60cm (24 inch) base cabinet in my plan, but a 30cm (12 inch) one with pull-out and recycling bin costs 645 EUR. I assume the 60cm (24 inch) cabinet wouldn’t cost more (considering the price of the 120cm (47 inch) one).
So roughly 1250 EUR - 780 EUR = 470 EUR additional cost. Not cheap, but not really a lot either. If you only replaced a 60cm (24 inch) cabinet, you would even save money.
The question is whether it really adds practical value in everyday use. Economically, it certainly doesn’t (there are also some additional running costs).
How many people are there in your household? There are four of us, and we run the dishwasher daily as well (sometimes twice a day). We don’t immediately reuse all the dishes we just unloaded, even now that we have all been at home since March.
Even if I had the space and the money, I wouldn’t consider buying a second dishwasher.
Unloading takes about 10 minutes. One of us usually does it quickly in the morning or at midday alongside other tasks.
Even if I had the space and the money, I wouldn’t consider buying a second dishwasher.
Unloading takes about 10 minutes. One of us usually does it quickly in the morning or at midday alongside other tasks.
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nordanney5 Jun 2020 10:26I personally find this quite nonsensical.
It’s at best suitable for extremely lazy people (and even then, 10 minutes to unload is an overestimation) with plenty of space and money. Pure decadence.
Besides, the kitchen ends up looking really odd if you have two dishwashers plus two ovens (one for fries and the other for the kids’ chicken). Then there’s the steam oven, which you supposedly need (or maybe even two of those). And the microwave for reheating yesterday’s food. Since not everything fits inside, sometimes there are two microwaves too.
I also don’t want to keep bending down to fully open the dishwasher, pull out a drawer, and then search for and remove what I need. It’s much easier to just walk up to the cabinet and that’s it.
It’s at best suitable for extremely lazy people (and even then, 10 minutes to unload is an overestimation) with plenty of space and money. Pure decadence.
Besides, the kitchen ends up looking really odd if you have two dishwashers plus two ovens (one for fries and the other for the kids’ chicken). Then there’s the steam oven, which you supposedly need (or maybe even two of those). And the microwave for reheating yesterday’s food. Since not everything fits inside, sometimes there are two microwaves too.
I also don’t want to keep bending down to fully open the dishwasher, pull out a drawer, and then search for and remove what I need. It’s much easier to just walk up to the cabinet and that’s it.
nordanney schrieb:
Just go to the cabinet and that’s it.Add a third or fourth dishwasher and you won’t need any cabinets anymore.Similar topics