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Brainstorming27 May 2020 10:04Hello everyone,
The usefulness of individual room control for underfloor heating in new buildings has been discussed many times. I have now come to the conclusion that I will forgo it. If you decide to take this approach, as I have, one might think that for cost reasons (around 2000 euros in our case) the room thermostats and actuators could simply be omitted if they are not going to be used anyway. Is there any reason against this? Does the building authority perhaps take a closer look and check whether everything is installed correctly?
As a side note: We are receiving a subsidy for our heat pump. Is there anyone here who might be more familiar with this topic?
I will probably at least run a cable from the potential installation location of the room thermostats to the location of the actuators, so that I could retrofit them if needed.
The usefulness of individual room control for underfloor heating in new buildings has been discussed many times. I have now come to the conclusion that I will forgo it. If you decide to take this approach, as I have, one might think that for cost reasons (around 2000 euros in our case) the room thermostats and actuators could simply be omitted if they are not going to be used anyway. Is there any reason against this? Does the building authority perhaps take a closer look and check whether everything is installed correctly?
As a side note: We are receiving a subsidy for our heat pump. Is there anyone here who might be more familiar with this topic?
I will probably at least run a cable from the potential installation location of the room thermostats to the location of the actuators, so that I could retrofit them if needed.
Brainstorming schrieb:
Hello everyone,
The practicality of individual room control for underfloor heating in new builds has been discussed many times. I have now reached the conclusion that I will do without it. If you choose this path—as I have—you might think it would make sense, for cost reasons (about 2000 euros in our case), to skip the room thermostats and actuators entirely since you won’t be using them anyway. Is there any reason not to do this? Would the building authority perhaps take a closer look and check whether everything has been installed properly?
As a note: We are receiving a subsidy for our heat pump. Could someone involved in this matter be interested in this topic?
I will probably at least run a cable from the potential installation location of the room thermostats to the location of the actuators, so I can retrofit them if needed.Without knowing for sure, I could imagine that when proving the implementation for the subsidy through the relevant invoices, someone might notice that you haven’t installed them. Since they are actually required, I can at least imagine that this could affect the subsidy.
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Brainstorming27 May 2020 14:08Are they really required for funding purposes?
I can’t say for sure. We will install them because it is probably very difficult to get an exemption. (Honestly, I have never read about anyone who was actually exempted.)
For this reason, they will be installed and will not affect our subsidy. Accordingly, I have never checked the fine print to see if they are required for the subsidy.
I can imagine that since they are legally mandated, the subsidy likely assumes their presence. Otherwise, it would seem odd to me—required in new construction but not necessary for the subsidy?
However, I don’t actually know. Maybe someone else knows more.
As mentioned, we will implement them (using KNX pushbuttons). The heating system will be designed so that they are not needed, essentially non-functional.
For this reason, they will be installed and will not affect our subsidy. Accordingly, I have never checked the fine print to see if they are required for the subsidy.
I can imagine that since they are legally mandated, the subsidy likely assumes their presence. Otherwise, it would seem odd to me—required in new construction but not necessary for the subsidy?
However, I don’t actually know. Maybe someone else knows more.
As mentioned, we will implement them (using KNX pushbuttons). The heating system will be designed so that they are not needed, essentially non-functional.
I’ll quote from another thread:
So, they are mandatory at first.
If you don’t want them installed, no one will make a big deal out of it. Just to be clear upfront.
But are you building with an architect or a general contractor? I doubt you’ll be able to remove them easily with a general contractor. If you can find your own plumbing company, it should be more feasible.
Daniel-Sp schrieb:
In new construction, a heating system is considered "smart" if it only needs to be set once and never adjusted again. Room thermostats are required by the energy-saving regulations for heated rooms, but they are unnecessary and can be deactivated. Alternatively, you can apply for an exemption from the ERR requirement and save money.
Just my opinion...
So, they are mandatory at first.
If you don’t want them installed, no one will make a big deal out of it. Just to be clear upfront.
But are you building with an architect or a general contractor? I doubt you’ll be able to remove them easily with a general contractor. If you can find your own plumbing company, it should be more feasible.
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Brainstorming27 May 2020 14:22Thanks in advance. The architect has prepared the building permit / planning permission and plans for us, and now we are managing the work through individual contracts.
It doesn’t make much sense to install room thermostats and actuators only to leave them disconnected later. From an economic perspective, that is completely illogical and a waste of resources. However, if the funding is tied to this, then I would have to bite the bullet, of course.
It doesn’t make much sense to install room thermostats and actuators only to leave them disconnected later. From an economic perspective, that is completely illogical and a waste of resources. However, if the funding is tied to this, then I would have to bite the bullet, of course.