Ötzi Ötztaler23 May 2020 18:22
Hello everyone,
We now have the shell of our 200m² (2,150 sq ft) single-family house standing on a 17m x 31m (approx. 530m² / 5,700 sq ft) plot. Unexpectedly, we have been granted permission to build a carport directly by the street. The carport will have a metal or wooden roof with four posts and no side walls.
This raises the question of whether we should build this carport in addition to the originally planned garage, and how to arrange the entrance for visitors. Or whether we should skip the garage altogether.
Basically, we have many bikes and such, so there is definitely a need for storage space. On the other hand, we don’t want to clutter the plot unnecessarily with too many outbuildings. We’re concerned that this might make the space feel cramped, especially since the garden is already quite small. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to build an additional garden shed on the north side, as 5m (16 ft) must be kept clear there. A second shaded terrace on the north side is possibly planned as well.
The questions are:
- Is it better to skip either the carport or the garage, or build both?
- How much garden storage space is typically needed? Is a 3m x 3m (10ft x 10ft) tool shed sufficient? There is no basement in the house, but we do have a 12m² (130 sq ft) utility room and an 11m² (120 sq ft) technical room as basement substitutes.
- We are also considering adding a glass terrace roof. Would that visually make the garden feel too small if added? The terrace faces south.
Which of these options would you prefer? By the way, comments like "build a smaller house/different location/with a basement" are too late.
Thanks in advance for your opinions and suggestions!
We now have the shell of our 200m² (2,150 sq ft) single-family house standing on a 17m x 31m (approx. 530m² / 5,700 sq ft) plot. Unexpectedly, we have been granted permission to build a carport directly by the street. The carport will have a metal or wooden roof with four posts and no side walls.
This raises the question of whether we should build this carport in addition to the originally planned garage, and how to arrange the entrance for visitors. Or whether we should skip the garage altogether.
Basically, we have many bikes and such, so there is definitely a need for storage space. On the other hand, we don’t want to clutter the plot unnecessarily with too many outbuildings. We’re concerned that this might make the space feel cramped, especially since the garden is already quite small. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to build an additional garden shed on the north side, as 5m (16 ft) must be kept clear there. A second shaded terrace on the north side is possibly planned as well.
The questions are:
- Is it better to skip either the carport or the garage, or build both?
- How much garden storage space is typically needed? Is a 3m x 3m (10ft x 10ft) tool shed sufficient? There is no basement in the house, but we do have a 12m² (130 sq ft) utility room and an 11m² (120 sq ft) technical room as basement substitutes.
- We are also considering adding a glass terrace roof. Would that visually make the garden feel too small if added? The terrace faces south.
Which of these options would you prefer? By the way, comments like "build a smaller house/different location/with a basement" are too late.
Thanks in advance for your opinions and suggestions!
Ötzi Ötztaler23 May 2020 18:34
V2 again, the image was incorrect:
My idea:
Carport: 6m (20 feet) wide, at least 5.5m (18 feet) deep. The width provides more space between the cars, and a typical combi vehicle is close to 5m (16 feet) in length. If you don’t always pull all the way forward, the rear will stick out onto the street.
I would add an extension room to the carport, spanning the full 6m (20 feet) width and 3m (10 feet) depth.
Around the outside of the carport, I would create the access path.
Carport: 6m (20 feet) wide, at least 5.5m (18 feet) deep. The width provides more space between the cars, and a typical combi vehicle is close to 5m (16 feet) in length. If you don’t always pull all the way forward, the rear will stick out onto the street.
I would add an extension room to the carport, spanning the full 6m (20 feet) width and 3m (10 feet) depth.
Around the outside of the carport, I would create the access path.
I'll throw another option into the ring...
Depending on how busy the street is, this design offers some privacy. It doesn't really matter whether you build the "emergency" garage at the back or not. But maybe once the house is paid off, the vintage car hobby might come into play.
Depending on how busy the street is, this design offers some privacy. It doesn't really matter whether you build the "emergency" garage at the back or not. But maybe once the house is paid off, the vintage car hobby might come into play.
Ötzi Ötztaler schrieb:
Unexpectedly, we are now being allowed.How did this come about? Who is granting this permission?
What does this permission include?
Is the width of the access area not restricted (for example, by the development plan, local regulations, or road and path laws)?
Does the floor area ratio allow for this extension, especially in option 1?
Does the building permit cover this range of changes, or is a revision planned anyway?
Ötzi Ötztaler24 May 2020 09:37
Thanks for the replies!
The floor area ratio is an interesting point, since we are actually at the limit. However, the area was previously designated as paved surface, so that should be okay? Informal statements suggest some flexibility. With options 1 and 4, complying with the 75m³ (2650 ft³) gross volume limit for building projects exempt from approval is almost impossible (unless building very low or very narrow). The whole thing just becomes more complex accordingly... Where might the pitfalls be?
hanse987 schrieb:Hmm, that’s also an option, having the garage storage space arranged crosswise, so to speak. Visitors would then walk even more directly in front of the terrace and have a longer walk to the front door.
I would add an extension room above the carport measuring 6m (20 feet) wide and 3m (10 feet) deep.
RomeoZwo schrieb:Wow, that opens up totally new ideas... I will consider the advantages of this.
Depending on how busy the street is, this option provides privacy screening.
Escroda schrieb:There was a change of mood in the municipal council and a surprising willingness from the higher building authority to allow minor deviations, even though the zoning plan is fairly recent. Previously, it was categorically rejected (either the municipality changes the zoning plan or approval would only be possible after 3-5 years).
How did this come about?
Who approved it?
What does this approval include?
Is the width of the driveway area not limited (e.g., by zoning plan, local regulations, or road and path laws)?
Does the floor area ratio allow for the extension, especially with option 1?
Does the building permit allow for these variations, or is a redesign already planned?
The floor area ratio is an interesting point, since we are actually at the limit. However, the area was previously designated as paved surface, so that should be okay? Informal statements suggest some flexibility. With options 1 and 4, complying with the 75m³ (2650 ft³) gross volume limit for building projects exempt from approval is almost impossible (unless building very low or very narrow). The whole thing just becomes more complex accordingly... Where might the pitfalls be?
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