ᐅ Single-Family Home Optimization and Planning (180 sqm + Attic, No Basement)
Created on: 22 May 2020 21:23
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phil12345
Hello everyone,
I was directed to this interesting sub-forum through other threads, and of course, I would like to share our idea pool in the form of Draft 2.0.
First, a few facts about us:
Both 32 years old, no children, working full time. Two children are planned, but only after the house is built and before 40. So, relatively mid-term.
We plan to build in the front yard (650 m² (7,000 sq ft)) of the builder’s parents. The plot is signed, and the partnership agreement is in place. We envision a single-family house of about 180 m² (1,940 sq ft) with a double garage. We do not want a basement.
The house should preferably meet the KfW55 energy efficiency standard despite having a gas heating system. As a guy, I obviously find KNX great, but maybe Somfy Smart Home would also work. However, I would really regret it in the future if I squander that investment.
The cube shown in the drawing, originally made of exposed concrete, has now been clad with Trespa panels. The window shutters should be external Venetian blinds (Raffstores) in the basement and regular shutters on the upper floor. A large covered terrace (not visible here) is also very important to us since we really want to sit in the garden sheltered from the weather.
Additionally, we face the challenge that the driveway is from the southwest side, so we need to combine garden and driveway.
A wood-burning fireplace is very important to the builder. The airlock/transition zone between garage and house, connecting both, is also essential. We like the idea of a shared but “separate” bathroom; a bathtub is not necessary. An additional third, basic bathroom in the garage for garden parties is also planned (we live in a rural area of Lower Saxony, where corn and beer are enjoyed every other day…) but should be kept very simple.
I will actively participate in the thread and look forward to an engaging discussion.
Best regards,
Phil12345
I was directed to this interesting sub-forum through other threads, and of course, I would like to share our idea pool in the form of Draft 2.0.
First, a few facts about us:
Both 32 years old, no children, working full time. Two children are planned, but only after the house is built and before 40. So, relatively mid-term.
We plan to build in the front yard (650 m² (7,000 sq ft)) of the builder’s parents. The plot is signed, and the partnership agreement is in place. We envision a single-family house of about 180 m² (1,940 sq ft) with a double garage. We do not want a basement.
The house should preferably meet the KfW55 energy efficiency standard despite having a gas heating system. As a guy, I obviously find KNX great, but maybe Somfy Smart Home would also work. However, I would really regret it in the future if I squander that investment.
The cube shown in the drawing, originally made of exposed concrete, has now been clad with Trespa panels. The window shutters should be external Venetian blinds (Raffstores) in the basement and regular shutters on the upper floor. A large covered terrace (not visible here) is also very important to us since we really want to sit in the garden sheltered from the weather.
Additionally, we face the challenge that the driveway is from the southwest side, so we need to combine garden and driveway.
A wood-burning fireplace is very important to the builder. The airlock/transition zone between garage and house, connecting both, is also essential. We like the idea of a shared but “separate” bathroom; a bathtub is not necessary. An additional third, basic bathroom in the garage for garden parties is also planned (we live in a rural area of Lower Saxony, where corn and beer are enjoyed every other day…) but should be kept very simple.
I will actively participate in the thread and look forward to an engaging discussion.
Best regards,
Phil12345
phil12345 schrieb:
I just don’t have a scan of it right now.I do. Has it been clarified with the planning authority that you are allowed to build beyond the development plan boundary? In @chrisse’s case, it was only a guideline line, but here – different development plan, different number of floors, different site coverage ratio / floor area ratio...
You don’t actually need the private road, but you are an adjacent property owner. Have the costs related to it been settled?
And the door in the garage – aside from the fact that I don’t see its purpose, it would be inadmissible right on the boundary.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t make much sense to discuss a pipe dream. Since you yourself say that $380,000 is your maximum budget, I see a maximum of 150 m² (1,615 sq ft) without a large double carport. And that assumption is quite optimistic, requiring costs of €2,000/m² (approximately $190/sq ft), which you might still achieve in rural Lower Saxony. Naturally, this would not include large window fronts or external blinds. Not to mention smart home systems (whether wireless or wired…). Also keep in mind that even without a basement and with a kitchen, you will still have considerable additional (construction) costs. Around here, with that budget, you would get a 120 m² (1,290 sq ft) terraced house from a developer without any special features.
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Drasleona23 May 2020 10:51I wouldn’t see it as quite that extreme. We are planning 175 m² (1,884 sq ft) and staying within the mentioned budget. However, we have been more cautious with certain aspects, like the windows, from a financial perspective. We are opting out of French balconies and sliding doors, which can cost between 10,000 and 20,000 euros (EUR) when you consider the whole house. We will build the carport ourselves later out of wood, which is inexpensive and could be postponed indefinitely if finances don’t allow it.
Two full floors, a townhouse style, flat roof, and similar features can also be very expensive depending on the situation, so you unfortunately have to gather information and make compromises.
Two full floors, a townhouse style, flat roof, and similar features can also be very expensive depending on the situation, so you unfortunately have to gather information and make compromises.
I mentioned that this applies to our region. Here, you definitely won’t build for €1,800–2,000 per square meter (approximately $170–190 per square foot), even with a low standard. I didn’t just make this up; it’s based on actual offers. A well-equipped townhouse here starts at around €550,000 (excluding additional purchase costs). Where exactly are you building in Baden-Württemberg? There are still some regional differences within Baden-Württemberg as well. Of course, there are always variables you can adjust, like with the carport, which I also mentioned. But the original poster hadn’t planned for any of that. Since we’re talking about the original poster from Lower Saxony, the situation might look different there, but still, 170–180 square meters (approximately 1,830–1,940 square feet) simply seems unrealistic.
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Drasleona23 May 2020 11:16We are building in the Ortenau district, which is also an expensive area, not "in the middle of nowhere."
However, these are only the pure house costs; the foundation slab is not included, nor are the additional construction-related costs. We are building with a prefabricated house manufacturer, which of course also affects the price significantly.
However, these are only the pure house costs; the foundation slab is not included, nor are the additional construction-related costs. We are building with a prefabricated house manufacturer, which of course also affects the price significantly.
Drasleona schrieb:
We are building in Ortenaukreis, and also in an expensive area, not "in the middle of nowhere."
But these are only the pure house costs; the foundation slab is not included, and of course neither are the additional construction costs. We are building with a prefabricated house manufacturer, which naturally influences the price a lot. Unfortunately, you still have to pay for the foundation slab and the additional construction costs. And the additional costs are generally the same up to a certain size. In my opinion, the original poster is talking about their total budget. Therefore, your comparison is somewhat off when you say that you also manage to do it. Especially since it seems you are dealing with planned costs, not actual costs. I don’t understand why the prefabricated house manufacturer should be particularly cheap. From a regional perspective, building costs are fairly similar. The standard and individual requirements ultimately determine the price.
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