ᐅ Single-Family House Floor Plan – Can It Be Made Narrower? Initial Ideas
Created on: 4 May 2020 23:05
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PyneBite
Hello everyone,
Today, I would like to share my first floor plan attempt (ground floor) with you.
The building will be a one-and-a-half-story single-family house with a gable roof, and our biggest challenge is the layout for the ground floor.
Attached is the partially dimensioned sketch.
It is quite difficult for me to judge in front of the screen whether the floor plan is practical for everyday use.
Here are some preliminary notes on the floor plan:
- The doors to the living and dining areas are planned as sliding doors (the staircase next to the sofa already has a height of over 2 m (6 ft 7 in))
- The straight staircase in the hallway is intended to be a focal point
- The sofa and the entertainment wall are drawn to scale
- The windows are only placeholders
- The front door should open in the opposite direction, but the software could not do this
- The utility room is 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) wide
- North is at the bottom by the entrance
My wishes/ideas are as follows:
- Lift-and-slide door approximately 3.50 m (11 ft 6 in) long (ideally centered, but this will probably not work due to the living area layout)
- Dining table 2 m (6 ft 7 in) long
- Kitchen with an island
- Guest toilet as small as possible (two bathrooms are planned upstairs)
- Ideally, I would prefer the house to be 1 m (3 ft 3 in) narrower (7.45 m (24 ft 5 in) instead of 8.45 m (27 ft 9 in))
Questions:
- Is there enough room to move around comfortably?
- Can the house be about 1 m (3 ft 3 in) narrower? Our main goal here is to reduce the floor area and improve the appearance. We want the house to be narrower but struggle with the implementation due to the staircase.
- What would you change?
I will work on part 2 afterwards and then upload everything complete with a filled-in questionnaire.
Today, I would like to share my first floor plan attempt (ground floor) with you.
The building will be a one-and-a-half-story single-family house with a gable roof, and our biggest challenge is the layout for the ground floor.
Attached is the partially dimensioned sketch.
It is quite difficult for me to judge in front of the screen whether the floor plan is practical for everyday use.
Here are some preliminary notes on the floor plan:
- The doors to the living and dining areas are planned as sliding doors (the staircase next to the sofa already has a height of over 2 m (6 ft 7 in))
- The straight staircase in the hallway is intended to be a focal point
- The sofa and the entertainment wall are drawn to scale
- The windows are only placeholders
- The front door should open in the opposite direction, but the software could not do this
- The utility room is 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in) wide
- North is at the bottom by the entrance
My wishes/ideas are as follows:
- Lift-and-slide door approximately 3.50 m (11 ft 6 in) long (ideally centered, but this will probably not work due to the living area layout)
- Dining table 2 m (6 ft 7 in) long
- Kitchen with an island
- Guest toilet as small as possible (two bathrooms are planned upstairs)
- Ideally, I would prefer the house to be 1 m (3 ft 3 in) narrower (7.45 m (24 ft 5 in) instead of 8.45 m (27 ft 9 in))
Questions:
- Is there enough room to move around comfortably?
- Can the house be about 1 m (3 ft 3 in) narrower? Our main goal here is to reduce the floor area and improve the appearance. We want the house to be narrower but struggle with the implementation due to the staircase.
- What would you change?
I will work on part 2 afterwards and then upload everything complete with a filled-in questionnaire.
11ant schrieb:
That is "very good." "Very good with a star" would be to start with the upper floor. This generally applies, but especially to pitched roof attics with low knee walls.You are so right. We planned the (for us) perfect ground floor, but the upper floor doesn’t quite work out as perfectly ... it will probably mean some compromises.
PyneBite schrieb:
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. The upper floor is anything but simple.Yes and no, you just have to interpret my comment correctly.PyneBite schrieb:
But I’m giving up on drawing it myself now, because my frustration level is extremely high at the moment.That’s the wrong conclusion. Yes, the upper floor is significantly more difficult. But the advice to start with the upper floor is often misunderstood as the “realization” that, as an amateur, you cannot manage it (or only at the cost of frustration). That only applies if you keep the existing ground floor design. Then you need both talent and luck. The correct interpretation of the advice, if the ground floor has already been planned, begins with “forgetting” the previous ground floor. After that, you plan the upper floor as if you had never made the common mistake—and, tadaa: it becomes much easier.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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So – here is attempt number 2:
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 704 sqm (of which 146 sqm (1570 sq ft) is a green strip on the east side)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: not specified
Plot ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16.5 ft) north boundary, rest 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development: "The construction of outbuildings, garages, and carports is not permitted within a 3 m (10 ft) wide strip behind the street boundary line of the main access road" – so presumably allowed on my plot, as it is at the end of a cul-de-sac
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: southeast
Maximum heights/restrictions: ridge height 8 m (26 ft), exception for symmetrical gable roofs with more than 40° pitch: 9 m (29.5 ft)
Additional requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof, 35°, knee wall 1.50 m (5 ft)
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4, aged 26, 23, 1, 1
Space requirements downstairs/upstairs: 5 rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Occasional guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport planned
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are included or not
We have a strong desire for both a children’s bathroom and a master bathroom. Master bedroom should be as small as possible, but with a spacious walk-in closet.
2 large children’s bedrooms
Small study room is sufficient.
Open living/dining area
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? All rooms fit in, nice view of the garden from the kitchen island, sofa and dining area
What don’t you like? Why? Bathrooms and utility room on the west side because of the connections
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for house, including fixtures:
Preferred heating technology: ground source heat pump
If you have to give up certain details/finishes
- Can you do without: In an emergency, the master bathroom. But actually not really … with a good reason also the kitchen island. However, it is intended as a workspace with a view into the living area to keep an eye on the children.
- Cannot do without: open dining area, no staircase directly at the door, walk-in closet
Why does the design look like it does now?
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
Originally there was an example from a catalog. This was adapted until we were satisfied.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes?
The small bathrooms are not ideal but don’t bother us much. We would like to have more afternoon sun from the west inside the house.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Does the plan work as intended?
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 704 sqm (of which 146 sqm (1570 sq ft) is a green strip on the east side)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: not specified
Plot ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16.5 ft) north boundary, rest 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development: "The construction of outbuildings, garages, and carports is not permitted within a 3 m (10 ft) wide strip behind the street boundary line of the main access road" – so presumably allowed on my plot, as it is at the end of a cul-de-sac
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: southeast
Maximum heights/restrictions: ridge height 8 m (26 ft), exception for symmetrical gable roofs with more than 40° pitch: 9 m (29.5 ft)
Additional requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof, 35°, knee wall 1.50 m (5 ft)
Basement, floors: no basement, 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, ages: 4, aged 26, 23, 1, 1
Space requirements downstairs/upstairs: 5 rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Occasional guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport planned
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain things are included or not
We have a strong desire for both a children’s bathroom and a master bathroom. Master bedroom should be as small as possible, but with a spacious walk-in closet.
2 large children’s bedrooms
Small study room is sufficient.
Open living/dining area
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? All rooms fit in, nice view of the garden from the kitchen island, sofa and dining area
What don’t you like? Why? Bathrooms and utility room on the west side because of the connections
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for house, including fixtures:
Preferred heating technology: ground source heat pump
If you have to give up certain details/finishes
- Can you do without: In an emergency, the master bathroom. But actually not really … with a good reason also the kitchen island. However, it is intended as a workspace with a view into the living area to keep an eye on the children.
- Cannot do without: open dining area, no staircase directly at the door, walk-in closet
Why does the design look like it does now?
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
Originally there was an example from a catalog. This was adapted until we were satisfied.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes?
The small bathrooms are not ideal but don’t bother us much. We would like to have more afternoon sun from the west inside the house.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Does the plan work as intended?
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saralina8713 May 2020 21:54I don’t quite understand the scale – is there even one?
Is it intentional that there is no door to the master bedroom except through the walk-in closet?
Overall, I think the upstairs hallway is too spacious.
What is the priority now, a straight staircase or the children’s bathroom?
Have you looked at the floor plan from Gussek Haus?
Is it intentional that there is no door to the master bedroom except through the walk-in closet?
Overall, I think the upstairs hallway is too spacious.
What is the priority now, a straight staircase or the children’s bathroom?
Have you looked at the floor plan from Gussek Haus?
saralina87 schrieb:
I don’t quite understand the scale – is there even one?
Is it intentional that there is no door to the master bedroom except through the walk-in closet?
Overall, I find the upstairs hallway too spacious.
What is the priority now, a straight staircase or the children’s bathroom?
Have you looked at the floor plan from Gussek Haus? 1:25
One square represents 25 cm (10 inches)
The access to the bedroom through the walk-in closet is intentional.
We ruled out a straight staircase because it never fit. I decided on a half-landing staircase for this floor plan.
If I make the hallway narrower, there is no access to the second children’s bedroom, unfortunately.
Yes, but that one didn’t fit either.
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