Hello everyone,
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
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Chrisi190611 May 2020 19:29I am currently sitting in an 18sqm (194 sq ft) room located on the east side (renovated old building). The sun does not shine directly on the windows...
There are 2 windows installed, positioned right next to each other. Each window has 3 panes. Dimensions are 1.77 x 0.93m (5.8 x 3.1 ft). In total, this results in approximately 3.3sqm (35.5 sq ft) gross window area, including the frames. I find the room still bright enough.
There are 2 windows installed, positioned right next to each other. Each window has 3 panes. Dimensions are 1.77 x 0.93m (5.8 x 3.1 ft). In total, this results in approximately 3.3sqm (35.5 sq ft) gross window area, including the frames. I find the room still bright enough.
Chrisi1906 schrieb:
I never said that no specific comments have been made. I was only referring to this particular comment. Yes, you did:
Chrisi1906 schrieb:
Be more specific instead of making comments like that. I said:
11ant schrieb:
Only girls do their homework properly. Today, stagnation is called zero growth. Telling the planner, “play it again, Sam, but this time with bigger windows” is a waste. A “new” plan only makes sense once the suggestions from the last round have been incorporated.
11ant schrieb:
I actually like the bathroom’s dance floor to whip the planner. Is this clear and specific enough now after posts #196/198?
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Chrisi1906 schrieb:
I am currently sitting in an 18m² (194ft²) room located on the east side. (renovated old building) The sun does not shine directly on the windows...
There are 2 windows installed right next to each other. Where exactly next to? Next to where you are sitting?
Chrisi1906 schrieb:
Each window has three sections. Dimensions are 1.77 x 0.93m (5.8 x 3.1 ft). So in total about 3.3m² (35.5ft²) gross window area, including the frames. I think the room is still bright enough. Yes, wide windows generally bring more light into a room than tall ones.
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NatureSys11 May 2020 20:13Chrisi1906 schrieb:
Why is the whole house dark? The children have enough window area. Have you even looked at the windows in the children's rooms? I wonder what home builders without floor-to-ceiling windows do? Total darkness? Of course, I have looked at them. Our children's rooms are very similar. Our floor-to-ceiling windows measure 1.55 x 2.40 meters (5.1 x 7.9 feet). And when we close the blinds on the floor-to-ceiling windows, the rooms get quite dark. The architect wanted to leave out the floor-to-ceiling windows, and every time I’m in my children’s rooms, I tell myself that having them was one of the best decisions in building the house.
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Chrisi190611 May 2020 20:1611ant schrieb:
Yes, you do:
I said:
Telling the planner, "play it again, Sam, but this time with wider windows" is a waste. A "new" plan only makes sense once the suggestions from the last round have been incorporated.
Do you see the word "never" or "no" from me? That’s why I didn’t say that.
You speak quite often in riddles.
11ant schrieb:
Is it clear enough now after posts #196/198? I mentioned in #181 that the bathroom and kitchen planning is still open, right? I was already aware of the bathroom part thanks to kaho674.
Still, I have to say I like a large bathroom. If the bathroom planner can use the space well, why not?
Could you explain the issue with legionella again? Is it only because of the pipe length?
C
Chrisi190611 May 2020 20:28kaho674 schrieb:
Where exactly next to? Next to your seat?
Yes, wide windows let more light into a room than tall ones. The windows are pretty much right next to each other. My desk is by the window. That’s the case for the desks in the children’s rooms too.
NatureSys schrieb:
Of course I looked at them. Our children’s rooms are quite similar. Our floor-to-ceiling windows measure 1.55 x 2.40 meters (5.1 x 7.9 feet). When the blinds on the double casement windows are closed, the rooms are quite dark. The architect wanted to leave out the double casement windows, and every time I’m in my children’s rooms, I tell myself that was one of the best decisions in the house build. But such a double casement window is also quite expensive. Are your children’s rooms also on the west side? It’s interesting that the architect wanted to leave out the double casement windows. My planner also keeps telling me, “That’s enough window area.” Hearing you say that makes me think twice.
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