ᐅ Site usage for semi-detached houses or duplex units

Created on: 9 Apr 2020 23:37
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mwinkelm
Hello dear home builders and construction experts,

I am new here and feel like I am still in the early research phase on the topic of building a house. You can find answers to many questions online, but often not specific enough for your own situation. That’s why I would like to use this forum to possibly get some input that can help me with my questions.

The framework conditions

There is a developed (currently unoccupied) family property intended for a new build. The property will be transferred to my wife and her sister-in-law in the coming weeks. The existing building from the 1930s cannot be renovated for less than 75% of the cost of a new build. In addition, the size, layout, and location on the plot are not suitable for a possible conversion into a kind of semi-detached house. Currently, we are planning to demolish the house and build either a semi-detached house or two semi-detached halves on the plot(s). To do this, the plot will be divided into two equal parts. This leads to my first question...

Questions
  • We currently prefer a physical division of the plot (rather than a fractional division) to have a clear separation and avoid dependencies, so to speak no “agreement obligation” regarding the house. This can already be complicated with an even number of parties involved. (We are thinking ahead here, in case one half needs to be sold.) At the moment, there is only one utility connection. If the plot is physically divided and two semi-detached halves are built, would it then be necessary to provide additional connections to sewage, water supply, electrical distribution, telephone, etc.? (I have read that it might be possible to manage with just one connection by arranging an easement, but this could have disadvantages for the servient party.)
  • Has anyone here had a similar case or something related with the same questions?
  • Is our preference for a physical division well justified, or are the disadvantages of a fractional division not that significant?
  • We have already received a few offers for the house (so far only from prefab house suppliers—solid construction, project developers, etc. will follow). It has turned out that building a semi-detached house can be somewhat cheaper than building two separate halves. In this case, residential property ownership would be established. Would it then actually be better to divide the plot fractionally, since a homeowners’ association would be formed? (Regardless of the fact that this is currently not our preferred option.)
I look forward to your answers and thank you very much in advance.

Markus
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mwinkelm
11 May 2020 15:57
kaho674 schrieb:

Where would the cars be parked with the plateau solution?

They should definitely be parked in front of the house, so in this case, in front of the "earth base" with the house on top.
kaho674 schrieb:

Had you already mentioned how steep the slope is?

I tried to include the slope in my house placement diagrams regarding sunlight, see post #18. According to the contour lines from the land registry office, there is about a 7-meter (23 feet) elevation change along the entire property length from northeast to southwest. Currently, there is 5 meters (16 feet) of space in front of the house, and the existing house is 8 meters (26 feet) deep. The plateau would therefore need to start where the house currently begins to ensure the parking area in front of the house is deep enough. Compared to my first sketch, this is exactly where the house starts. (In the plateau drawing, I had omitted the street and front parking spot.) The photos posted might also help clarify the current terrain situation.
kaho674 schrieb:

Hey, you’re really good at drawing!

Thanks. It doesn’t always have to be a computer graphic—it would have taken too long.
kaho674 schrieb:

In my opinion, the plateau only makes sense if the slope isn’t a full story high.

Hmm... I don’t quite understand that. It’s actually ideal if it’s a full basement level so that the terrace can be flush with the ground floor, isn’t it?
11ant11 May 2020 16:46
mwinkelm schrieb:

It doesn’t always have to be a computer rendering,
Those aren’t very good either: because they often look much more perfect compared to most amateur drawings, they are easily mistaken by planners with limited spatial imagination for successful designs, even when they are not.
mwinkelm schrieb:

Hmm… I don’t quite understand that. Isn’t it actually ideal if it’s the entire basement floor, so that the terrace can then be level with the ground floor?
Now I don’t understand: shouldn’t the push-up slab be used exactly instead of a cellar with a plinth wall?
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mwinkelm
11 May 2020 17:18
11ant schrieb:
Now I don’t understand: wasn’t the push-up slab supposed to be used instead of a raised basement?

Yes, exactly, that was the idea suggested by the prefab house salesperson. In my drawing, the "push-up slab" does not include a basement either. However, if you only raise it by half a story, you would have to move a huge amount of earth on the slope to build the terrace directly adjacent to the ground floor. For us, that is a must-have.

How can I cause so much confusion with just a few words? oops: Thanks for still trying to understand me.
11ant11 May 2020 18:22
Do you know my principle: "a height difference of an entire basement always costs as much as a whole basement, no matter if it goes to the right or left"?
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kaho67411 May 2020 18:34
Yes, I would also take 11ants’ principle to heart. If you have to raise an entire floor anywhere, you might as well build a basement. The cost-benefit of “just adding fill” is worse than building a basement right away.
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mwinkelm
11 May 2020 21:46
11ant schrieb:

Are you familiar with my principle that "a height difference equivalent to a full basement always costs as much as an entire basement, regardless of whether it’s raised to the right or left"?

No, I haven’t come across that in any other thread of yours so far.
kaho674 schrieb:

If you have to tilt a whole floor somewhere, you might as well just build a basement.

It feels like this suggestion has only disadvantages and doesn’t match what we envision, so it’s out of consideration.