ᐅ Floor plan single-family house approx. 200 sqm double garage basement
Created on: 6 May 2020 01:02
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jonashartf
Hello everyone,
First of all, respect to this forum – it’s great to see so many valuable contributions here and how openly but constructively the discussions take place. This is the reason why we want to share our building project for discussion and look forward to feedback for optimization.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 800 sqm (8600 sq ft)
Slope slight slope (2.5 m / 8 ft drop from north to south over 40 m)
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.4?
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development garage
Number of parking spaces 2 parking spaces
Number of floors 2 full stories (if we get approval for a deviation from the development plan)
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern gable roof house
Orientation southwest-facing garden
Maximum heights / limits none
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, modern
Basement, floors: 2 full stories + basement
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 adults, 2 children)
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor approx. 190-210 sqm (2045-2260 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? family use + home office in basement
Guest overnight stays per year 3-4 times
Open or closed architecture mixed (open and bright living-dining area)
Conservative or modern construction style modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island separated by large sliding door
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace yes, with seating bench
Music/stereo wall stereo wall planned
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse yes
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why or why not for certain choices: fixed attached terrace roof, practical entrance area, efficient use of space, house access via double garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
-builder’s company planner
-architect
-do-it-yourself
Architect – result of preliminary planning
What do you like most? Why? layout of rooms on the ground floor. Spacious living/dining area. Access between garage and house
What do you not like? Why? due to the maximum plot width, it is difficult to realize the house entrance with coat area as well as WC/bathroom nearby
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: rough estimate according to DIN 450,000
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: 500,000
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler (but no final decision yet)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
After several iterations, especially for the ground floor, we believe we have a good concept. However, we would like to share all floors here for feedback, as we have seen on other topics that very good and valuable input appears, highlighting aspects we hadn’t thought of. Improvement suggestions are therefore very welcome.


First of all, respect to this forum – it’s great to see so many valuable contributions here and how openly but constructively the discussions take place. This is the reason why we want to share our building project for discussion and look forward to feedback for optimization.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 800 sqm (8600 sq ft)
Slope slight slope (2.5 m / 8 ft drop from north to south over 40 m)
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.4?
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development garage
Number of parking spaces 2 parking spaces
Number of floors 2 full stories (if we get approval for a deviation from the development plan)
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern gable roof house
Orientation southwest-facing garden
Maximum heights / limits none
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, modern
Basement, floors: 2 full stories + basement
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 adults, 2 children)
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor approx. 190-210 sqm (2045-2260 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? family use + home office in basement
Guest overnight stays per year 3-4 times
Open or closed architecture mixed (open and bright living-dining area)
Conservative or modern construction style modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island separated by large sliding door
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace yes, with seating bench
Music/stereo wall stereo wall planned
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse yes
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why or why not for certain choices: fixed attached terrace roof, practical entrance area, efficient use of space, house access via double garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
-builder’s company planner
-architect
-do-it-yourself
Architect – result of preliminary planning
What do you like most? Why? layout of rooms on the ground floor. Spacious living/dining area. Access between garage and house
What do you not like? Why? due to the maximum plot width, it is difficult to realize the house entrance with coat area as well as WC/bathroom nearby
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: rough estimate according to DIN 450,000
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: 500,000
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler (but no final decision yet)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
After several iterations, especially for the ground floor, we believe we have a good concept. However, we would like to share all floors here for feedback, as we have seen on other topics that very good and valuable input appears, highlighting aspects we hadn’t thought of. Improvement suggestions are therefore very welcome.
J
jonashartf6 May 2020 13:12kaho674 schrieb:
You can just have the office quietly located behind the living room. It’s quite secluded there and should be sufficient.
How old is the development plan, and what do the surrounding houses look like? If they’ve all followed the rules strictly, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much. But the sloped ceilings in the kids’ rooms aren’t the end of the world. Your bedroom could have a dormer or something similar. Exactly, from a purely logical standpoint, that’s absolutely correct. The office on the ground floor was actually intended more as a craft/hobby room for my wife currently, and later on as a bedroom to allow one-level living. We really need to carefully reconsider what we actually need and what we can afford.
The development plan dates from 1966, and there are very few exceptions in the area. We are currently in talks with the city to find out whether they would support the building project as planned. If necessary, it might come down to a slightly higher knee wall (the guideline is actually a maximum of 50 cm (20 inches)), but the floor plan would at least allow for several alternatives.
We can definitely imagine a dormer for the bedroom as well, yes! Possibly with an exposed roof truss...
Thanks again for the feedback! I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts once we’ve progressed further with windows and other details.
J
jonashartf6 May 2020 13:15haydee schrieb:
You already have a home office on the ground floor, right?
What is the room next to the bathroom on the ground floor for? Currently, it is planned as an office / craft room for my wife. Primarily, it is intended to serve as a bedroom later in life.
haydee schrieb:
Under the door to the dining area/terrace, there is a window shown in the basement. That doesn’t quite fit. Good point, the window positions are not correct yet, but we will definitely pay attention to that!
haydee schrieb:
Basements finished to living space standards cost more than 1,000 euros per square meter. There will be additional costs on top. Okay, that was to be expected, thanks for the note!
haydee schrieb:
I would extend the terrace up to the kitchen, so you can access the fridge directly from outside. Yes! Very good idea, we will especially try to implement that during the kitchen planning. Thanks!
haydee schrieb:
I don’t like the stairwell. It feels a bit old-fashioned and doesn’t connect the living spaces well. We have already considered different options for the stairs... We are always open to creative ideas.
Many thanks and best regards
jonashartf schrieb:
Later to be used as a bedroom to enable single-floor living.I can’t believe this wish keeps coming up @jonashartf, no offense! I just can’t understand this idea at all. What’s the point of having a house that I only use half of, or if there’s a basement, two-thirds unused? And what about stairlifts? How is someone with limited mobility (otherwise they wouldn’t need to move to the ground floor) supposed to manage in such a tiny bathroom and tiny bedroom? Why should I build my house for a situation that might occur in 50 years?Pinky0301 schrieb:
I can’t believe this wish keeps coming up @jonashartf, no offense intended! I just can’t understand the idea at all. What do I want with a house that I only use half of, or two-thirds if there’s a basement? In this specific case, dividing the house is truly possible thanks to the stairwell. So I think it’s okay.
jonashartf schrieb:
We also discussed the issue with lighting in the hallway before, but apart from skylights and glass elements in the doors, we haven’t yet found a perfect solution. We would be very grateful for good ideas here!
If the walls open up to the stairwell, the problem is almost solved. Then add a glass door to the office – let there be light!jonashartf schrieb:
Hello Sabine,
Thank you very much for your feedback! We have already discussed the issue with the lighting in the hallway before, but besides skylights and glass panels in the doors, we haven’t found a perfect solution yet. We are very open to good ideas here!
We actually wanted to skip a separate kids’ bathroom and rather have a shared family bathroom.
Best regards Glass panels in the doors don’t add much. We have a double-leaf living room door with a large glass insert and also a sliding glass door to the kitchen. Next to the front door, we have a 2.25 x 1.0 meter (7.4 x 3.3 feet) window, but when the roller shutter is down, the hallway is quite dark despite the glass insert in the front door. It will get very dark at your place.
A family bathroom won’t be a relaxing space anymore once you have teenagers—we had that in our first house and would never do it again. Having a private bathroom is one of the most important things for us in the new house.
Regards
Sabine
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