ᐅ Floor plan single-family house approx. 200 sqm double garage basement
Created on: 6 May 2020 01:02
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jonashartf
Hello everyone,
First of all, respect to this forum – it’s great to see so many valuable contributions here and how openly but constructively the discussions take place. This is the reason why we want to share our building project for discussion and look forward to feedback for optimization.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 800 sqm (8600 sq ft)
Slope slight slope (2.5 m / 8 ft drop from north to south over 40 m)
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.4?
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development garage
Number of parking spaces 2 parking spaces
Number of floors 2 full stories (if we get approval for a deviation from the development plan)
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern gable roof house
Orientation southwest-facing garden
Maximum heights / limits none
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, modern
Basement, floors: 2 full stories + basement
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 adults, 2 children)
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor approx. 190-210 sqm (2045-2260 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? family use + home office in basement
Guest overnight stays per year 3-4 times
Open or closed architecture mixed (open and bright living-dining area)
Conservative or modern construction style modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island separated by large sliding door
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace yes, with seating bench
Music/stereo wall stereo wall planned
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse yes
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why or why not for certain choices: fixed attached terrace roof, practical entrance area, efficient use of space, house access via double garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
-builder’s company planner
-architect
-do-it-yourself
Architect – result of preliminary planning
What do you like most? Why? layout of rooms on the ground floor. Spacious living/dining area. Access between garage and house
What do you not like? Why? due to the maximum plot width, it is difficult to realize the house entrance with coat area as well as WC/bathroom nearby
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: rough estimate according to DIN 450,000
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: 500,000
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler (but no final decision yet)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
After several iterations, especially for the ground floor, we believe we have a good concept. However, we would like to share all floors here for feedback, as we have seen on other topics that very good and valuable input appears, highlighting aspects we hadn’t thought of. Improvement suggestions are therefore very welcome.
First of all, respect to this forum – it’s great to see so many valuable contributions here and how openly but constructively the discussions take place. This is the reason why we want to share our building project for discussion and look forward to feedback for optimization.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 800 sqm (8600 sq ft)
Slope slight slope (2.5 m / 8 ft drop from north to south over 40 m)
Site occupancy index 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.4?
Building setback, building line and boundary 3 m (10 ft)
Edge development garage
Number of parking spaces 2 parking spaces
Number of floors 2 full stories (if we get approval for a deviation from the development plan)
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern gable roof house
Orientation southwest-facing garden
Maximum heights / limits none
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, modern
Basement, floors: 2 full stories + basement
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 adults, 2 children)
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor approx. 190-210 sqm (2045-2260 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? family use + home office in basement
Guest overnight stays per year 3-4 times
Open or closed architecture mixed (open and bright living-dining area)
Conservative or modern construction style modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island separated by large sliding door
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace yes, with seating bench
Music/stereo wall stereo wall planned
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse yes
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why or why not for certain choices: fixed attached terrace roof, practical entrance area, efficient use of space, house access via double garage
House Design
Who created the plan:
-builder’s company planner
-architect
-do-it-yourself
Architect – result of preliminary planning
What do you like most? Why? layout of rooms on the ground floor. Spacious living/dining area. Access between garage and house
What do you not like? Why? due to the maximum plot width, it is difficult to realize the house entrance with coat area as well as WC/bathroom nearby
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: rough estimate according to DIN 450,000
Personal budget limit for house including equipment: 500,000
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler (but no final decision yet)
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
After several iterations, especially for the ground floor, we believe we have a good concept. However, we would like to share all floors here for feedback, as we have seen on other topics that very good and valuable input appears, highlighting aspects we hadn’t thought of. Improvement suggestions are therefore very welcome.
Budget is too small. But that’s okay. The basement can be completely omitted, which makes it somewhat manageable.
Even without the basement, you still have a children’s room left.
The floor plan is great: it could probably be converted to a single-story layout — an exception where a basement is not necessary. That’s what I call flexibility. I would remove the partition wall to the stairwell on both floors (ground floor + upper floor). Such a wall can be added later if you want to separate the floors (I’m saying, very flexible).
I would replace the dining table in the kitchen with a small island. The dining table is right next to it in the living area. I would also get rid of that storage space on the upper floor next to the stairs. A cupboard would be enough and keeps the openness. The bathroom layout isn’t very good yet. It can definitely be improved. Exterior views would be nice as well to check the windows.
Even without the basement, you still have a children’s room left.
The floor plan is great: it could probably be converted to a single-story layout — an exception where a basement is not necessary. That’s what I call flexibility. I would remove the partition wall to the stairwell on both floors (ground floor + upper floor). Such a wall can be added later if you want to separate the floors (I’m saying, very flexible).
I would replace the dining table in the kitchen with a small island. The dining table is right next to it in the living area. I would also get rid of that storage space on the upper floor next to the stairs. A cupboard would be enough and keeps the openness. The bathroom layout isn’t very good yet. It can definitely be improved. Exterior views would be nice as well to check the windows.
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jonashartf6 May 2020 09:25Thank you very much for the detailed feedback!!
We haven’t really been able to decide on that yet. Probably because we’re just used to it and because I like having an office where I can work quietly. But of course, the costs for a basement should not be underestimated...
Very good point! Maybe we should really design the stairwell as open at first to create a bigger sense of space. Currently, the site plan permits 1 + attic floor. But we are in the process of clarifying if deviations from this could be approved and if then there would be no sloped ceilings on the upper floor.
Yes, absolutely – that’s exactly what we wanted to discuss next with the kitchen planner. The dining table might actually be unnecessary, though it is practical for quick breakfasts before work due to the short walking distances.
We’ll do that, thanks for the tip! Right now it would also be quite difficult to move larger items to the upper floor if the storage room remains there.
The windows and bathroom are not planned in detail yet. We also don’t like the current layout so far. Also, I think we don’t need two windows in the bathroom.
kaho674 schrieb:
Budget too small. But that’s okay. The basement can be completely omitted, then it fits somewhat.
We haven’t really been able to decide on that yet. Probably because we’re just used to it and because I like having an office where I can work quietly. But of course, the costs for a basement should not be underestimated...
kaho674 schrieb:
Floor plan is great: it could probably also be changed to a single-storey house – exception being the basement is not necessary. That’s what I call flexible. I would leave out the partition wall to the stairwell on both floors (ground floor + upper floor). Something like that can be added later if you want to separate the floors (I’m telling you, very flexible).
Very good point! Maybe we should really design the stairwell as open at first to create a bigger sense of space. Currently, the site plan permits 1 + attic floor. But we are in the process of clarifying if deviations from this could be approved and if then there would be no sloped ceilings on the upper floor.
kaho674 schrieb:
I would replace the dining table in the kitchen with a small island. The dining table is right next to it in the living room anyway.
Yes, absolutely – that’s exactly what we wanted to discuss next with the kitchen planner. The dining table might actually be unnecessary, though it is practical for quick breakfasts before work due to the short walking distances.
kaho674 schrieb:
I would also get rid of that storage thing on the upper floor next to the stairs. A closet will do and preserves the openness.
We’ll do that, thanks for the tip! Right now it would also be quite difficult to move larger items to the upper floor if the storage room remains there.
kaho674 schrieb:
Bathroom layout is not very nice yet. It can definitely be improved. Exterior views would be nice too, to check the windows.
The windows and bathroom are not planned in detail yet. We also don’t like the current layout so far. Also, I think we don’t need two windows in the bathroom.
You can calmly have the office located behind the living room. It’s quite secluded there and should be sufficient.
How old is the development plan and what do the surrounding houses look like? If they all followed the rules strictly, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much. But the sloped ceilings in the children’s rooms are not a big issue. Your bedroom could have a dormer or something similar.
How old is the development plan and what do the surrounding houses look like? If they all followed the rules strictly, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too much. But the sloped ceilings in the children’s rooms are not a big issue. Your bedroom could have a dormer or something similar.
You already have a study on the ground floor, right?
What is the room next to the bathroom on the ground floor used for?
There is a window marked in the basement below the door to the dining area/terrace. Somehow that doesn’t quite fit.
A basement with living space quality costs more than 1,000 euros per square meter (approximately 93 dollars per square foot). Additional costs will come on top of that.
I would extend the terrace up to the kitchen so you can access the fridge directly from outside.
I don’t like the stairwell. It feels a bit outdated and doesn’t really connect the living spaces.
What is the room next to the bathroom on the ground floor used for?
There is a window marked in the basement below the door to the dining area/terrace. Somehow that doesn’t quite fit.
A basement with living space quality costs more than 1,000 euros per square meter (approximately 93 dollars per square foot). Additional costs will come on top of that.
I would extend the terrace up to the kitchen so you can access the fridge directly from outside.
I don’t like the stairwell. It feels a bit outdated and doesn’t really connect the living spaces.
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jonashartf6 May 2020 13:08Curly schrieb:
I find the hallway on the ground floor too dark and the space between the chairs and the countertop in the kitchen too tight. With two or even three children, I would also plan a separate kids’ bathroom and a private parents’ area.
Best regards
SabineHello Sabine,
thank you very much for your feedback! We have already discussed the lighting issue in the hallway and, besides skylights and glass elements in the doors, haven’t yet found a perfect solution. We would really appreciate any good ideas on this!
Regarding the kitchen, we are currently leaning toward turning the table into a kitchen island, which would solve that problem. The dining area in the kitchen would mainly be for quick meals for a few people, for example in the morning before work or similar. We’ll see how we decide during the kitchen planning phase.
We originally planned to forgo a separate kids’ bathroom and instead have a shared family bathroom.
Best regards
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