Hello dear forum community,
We are currently at the very beginning of planning the electrical system and are quite undecided about whether a smart home system (KNX, etc.) makes sense or not.
Our requirements are as follows:
- Control of blinds including a timer function
- Lighting control
- Video and intercom system, which should be installed in the basement, living/dining room, and hallway on the upper floor
- It does not necessarily need to be app-controlled, and if it is, it only needs to work when we are at home (the door does not need to be opened remotely via app)
- Motion sensors on stairs and hallways
- Dimmable lighting
Each room will also have a room thermostat. This does not necessarily need to be centrally controlled.
I have recently come across the GIRA System 3000. Does anyone have experience with it? From what I have read, it should cover all of the stated requirements. Have we forgotten anything essential that should definitely be considered?
Thank you very much for your experiences and assessments.
Best regards and have a nice evening
We are currently at the very beginning of planning the electrical system and are quite undecided about whether a smart home system (KNX, etc.) makes sense or not.
Our requirements are as follows:
- Control of blinds including a timer function
- Lighting control
- Video and intercom system, which should be installed in the basement, living/dining room, and hallway on the upper floor
- It does not necessarily need to be app-controlled, and if it is, it only needs to work when we are at home (the door does not need to be opened remotely via app)
- Motion sensors on stairs and hallways
- Dimmable lighting
Each room will also have a room thermostat. This does not necessarily need to be centrally controlled.
I have recently come across the GIRA System 3000. Does anyone have experience with it? From what I have read, it should cover all of the stated requirements. Have we forgotten anything essential that should definitely be considered?
Thank you very much for your experiences and assessments.
Best regards and have a nice evening
Before I am misunderstood here, we will use KNX and fully support it. However, our goal is for the house to do everything (!) automatically. Whether the electrician can handle that and how much we will have to do ourselves afterward remains to be seen.
If I only wanted to control blinds and lights from a phone, that could certainly be done more cheaply than with KNX.
If I only wanted to control blinds and lights from a phone, that could certainly be done more cheaply than with KNX.
I’m wondering the same as the original poster. For us, we basically just need a good control system for the 13 roller shutters (no venetian blinds, so no wind-sensitive exterior parts and therefore no weather station needed) on the ground floor. It would be enough for us to control them uniformly from the hallway, but also to program them (time adjustable by me depending on the month/sun position).
No controlling them on the go via an app from the couch because we’re too lazy to get up. But I’m quite sure that using KNX there would be like shooting sparrows with a cannon. The question is, though, which roller shutter control system? Just the one the electrician recommends, right?
Originally, we also wanted to include lighting in the "smart home support." But since Philips has recently started offering Hue bulbs that can be individually controlled directly via Bluetooth without an intermediary device or “router” (up to 10 bulbs), that’s entirely sufficient for our two rooms (bathroom and kitchen), where we occasionally want to change color, kelvin, or brightness.
No controlling them on the go via an app from the couch because we’re too lazy to get up. But I’m quite sure that using KNX there would be like shooting sparrows with a cannon. The question is, though, which roller shutter control system? Just the one the electrician recommends, right?
Originally, we also wanted to include lighting in the "smart home support." But since Philips has recently started offering Hue bulbs that can be individually controlled directly via Bluetooth without an intermediary device or “router” (up to 10 bulbs), that’s entirely sufficient for our two rooms (bathroom and kitchen), where we occasionally want to change color, kelvin, or brightness.
rick2018 schrieb:
@Tarnari really everything? That means sensors almost everywhere, logic controllers, etc. I hope your budget is fairly flexible.
I’m definitely curious to see how your project progresses. At least the plan is to get there eventually. It definitely won’t be like that at the start. But the foundations should be set accordingly and expanded later if needed.
TraumvHaus schrieb:
It’s important for us to have a system that runs reliably.
It doesn’t need to be absolutely fancy or “decide” by itself whether the lights should be on or off.
We can handle that ourselves. That pretty much describes how KNX works. Absolutely stable and reliable. As fancy as you want it and as much control as you wish.
It can range from fully manual to fully automatic. How much automation you allow is always up to the resident and can be changed at any time.
annab377 schrieb:
Just a good control system for the 13 roller shutters. But what exactly do you mean by a “good control system”?
annab377 schrieb:
For this, it would be enough for us to control them uniformly from the hallway and also be able to program (variable time depending on the month / solar position adjustable by me). For that purpose, simple changeover relays and an astronomical time switch are sufficient. You don’t need a “good control system” for that, though it may require more effort than KNX and could even turn out to be more expensive.
annab377 schrieb:
I’m almost sure that KNX would be like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut there. KNX is very scalable, so you get exactly as much functionality as you need. But the big advantage is that it’s always quick to change or expand. You can’t say that for conventional electrical wiring, proprietary control systems, or many of the so-called “smart home” solutions.
annab377 schrieb:
Originally, we also wanted to include lighting in the “smart home support.” But since Philips now offers Hue bulbs that can be controlled individually—up to 10 pieces—directly via Bluetooth without an intermediary device or “router,” that’s enough for our two rooms (bathroom and kitchen), where we just want to change color, color temperature, or brightness occasionally. Smart is when everything in the house works together. Apparently, you don’t need that. However, for the Hue bulbs, you’ll still need either Friends of Hue switches or you’ll keep reaching for your phone, making you more or less dependent on Philips again. That’s something I would want to avoid.
annab377 schrieb:
Does an industrial PLC roller shutter control already count as a “smart home”? Is a motor the same as a finished car?