ᐅ City villa with 165 sqm – any initial ideas?

Created on: 2 May 2020 22:19
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CinkiNI
Hello everyone,

A brief introduction: We are still at the very beginning of our planning and are complete beginners in this area. However, we want to be well prepared for the initial discussions. Our main goal at this stage is to find out if "we are on the right track" and if our plan roughly fits our needs. The furniture has only been placed sporadically.

We want to build a townhouse with about 165 sqm (1,779 sq ft). For us, it is important that the ground floor includes a guest room that can ideally be used later as a master bedroom, as well as a guest bathroom with a shower.
On the upper floor, we plan three children’s rooms plus the master bedroom and a small "workroom" for the sewing machine, vacuum cleaner, and nocturnal guinea pigs.

Plot size 1,100 sqm (11,840 sq ft), northeast-facing, house centered on the lot, driveway and parking spaces on the right side with passage through the utility room
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio ?
Building envelope, building line and boundary ?
Adjacent buildings ?
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type Pyramid hip roof, 25 degrees
Architectural style Modern townhouse
Entrance orientation Southwest
Maximum height/limits 10 m (33 ft)
Further requirements ?

Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
Modern townhouse with pyramid hip roof, 25 degrees
Basement, floors 2 full floors without basement
Number of occupants 5

House Design
Who created the plan?
Self-designed

What do you like about the design? Why?
Three relatively equally sized children’s rooms, open dining/living area on the ground floor

What do you not like? Why?
Guest room is relatively small, difficult to use later as a master bedroom
Master bedroom upstairs is small
Bathroom on the upper floor located above the living room (possible need for pipe insulation?)


Why does the design look like this so far?
Our first draft as "laypersons" including all rooms relevant to us, but it can certainly be optimized

Ground floor plan: open living/dining area, kitchen, hallway, workroom, utility room, stairs, WC


First floor plan with three children’s rooms, master bedroom, bathroom, and workroom.
Pinky03013 May 2020 09:11
And what will the fourth room on the upper floor be used for once the master bedroom is moved downstairs?
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CinkiNI
3 May 2020 09:13
The smallest room will then be the guest room/playroom. Child 3 is still "on the way," so there will be some more time for playing.
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Drasleona
3 May 2020 09:51
In my opinion, this plan with a "kids' floor" is completely misguided... So you want to have an 11 sqm (118 sq ft) bedroom soon, and your bathroom is supposed to be the guest restroom? While the children reside upstairs in the palace? I think it’s great to prioritize the children, but you don’t have to completely degrade yourselves to their servants, sorry.

I also find the upstairs office very small. Is it only going to be used for tax purposes or for other tasks as well?

The shower in the upstairs bathroom seems very small to me. Is it 80 x 80 cm (31.5 x 31.5 inches)? If so, I would consider whether it's possible to fit a larger, more modern, and more comfortable shower size.

You have no cloakroom or wardrobe area. I find that very difficult with five people...

Overall, I think you have very small or few window surfaces. Was that intentional in the design?
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KEVST
3 May 2020 10:10
Even with your second design, a double bed with a wardrobe will not fit into the potential bedroom on the ground floor.
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CinkiNI
3 May 2020 10:14
Drasleona schrieb:

In my opinion, this layout with the “kids’ floor” is completely off… So you plan to have an 11sqm (118 sq ft) bedroom for yourselves soon, and your bathroom is going to be the guest toilet? While the kids get to live like royalty upstairs? I understand wanting to prioritize the children, but there’s no need to completely subordinate yourselves to them, sorry.

I also find the office upstairs very small. Is it only intended for doing taxes or for something else as well?

The shower upstairs seems very small to me. Is it 80x80cm (31.5x31.5 inches)? If so, I would consider whether it’s possible to have a larger, more modern, and more comfortable shower size.

You don’t have a dedicated cloakroom area. I think that will be more than difficult with five people…

Overall, I think the window areas are very small. Was that planned intentionally?


We sleep and get dressed in that room – for us, the priorities are simply different there. Of course, bigger would always be nicer, but given the available space, we don’t see any possibilities at the moment and don’t want to reduce space in the living room since we spend most of our time there… Whether we implement it remains to be seen, so it’s just an option and an explanation why there is no very small guest room for maybe 1–2 guests per year. We’re still thinking it over; the plan sounded good in theory to have peace down there.

The office upstairs will be more of a “storage room” for the vacuum cleaner, etc., so it’s not intended as a space for actually working from home or similar.

We will reconsider the shower; it is planned as a walk-in shower with a flush floor.

The cloakroom is correct; it is planned to be inside the utility room, while the hallway will have a small area for guests or daily jackets for everyone.

We haven’t planned the windows in detail yet, but that will also go on the “to-check” list.
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CinkiNI
3 May 2020 10:19
KEVST schrieb:

Even with your second design, a double bed with a wardrobe won’t fit in the potential bedroom on the ground floor.
Yes, it will probably be more difficult to implement this option than expected... if necessary, we will have to discard it, then the room could also be slightly reduced in size, for example, to make space for a guest toilet.