ᐅ Luxhaus and Competitors – Breathable Wall Systems

Created on: 30 Apr 2020 15:58
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ArminGT
Hello dear forum,

We plan to start building our house the year after next and are currently looking for companies that offer a concept similar to Luxhaus. We have also come across Engelhardt and Geissbauer.

Do you have any other suggestions for companies that provide vapor-permeable walls or have a similar approach?

Best regards
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Daniel-Sp
1 May 2020 13:04
Water vapor should be able to escape from the wall to the outside (if present), but of course, it must not penetrate from the outside into the wall. Therefore, there is a vapor retarder somewhere in the wall assembly. In the past, vapor barriers like foil were commonly used to make the wall vapor-tight. Today, glued joints of oriented strand board (OSB) are often used instead, as they also help to stiffen the stud frame.

The ease with which water vapor can pass through a material depends on its thickness and composition and is expressed by the Sd value. Values below 0.5 are considered vapor permeable (diffusion-open). Values between 0.5 and 1500 indicate vapor retarders (diffusion-reducing), and values above 1500 represent vapor-tight materials. Depending on its thickness, OSB has an Sd value of around 3.
face261 May 2020 13:13
...and how much water vapor in grams or milliliters per unit of time do you think diffuses through there?
How long would it, for example, take to reduce the humidity from 60% to 50% after cooking, or from 80% to 50% in the bathroom after showering?
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MayrCh
1 May 2020 13:13
Daniel-Sp schrieb:

Water vapor
What percentage of the relative humidity can these "vapor-permeable" building components absorb or buffer? Over what time scale do these exchange processes typically occur?
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Daniel-Sp
1 May 2020 13:16
This is not about the water vapor generated inside the rooms. Ventilation, either manual or mechanical, is responsible for managing that.
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hampshire
1 May 2020 13:18
nordbayer schrieb:

A wall system that is not vapor permeable but includes ventilation makes EXTREMELY more sense than a vapor-permeable system without ventilation. At least one exhaust fan in the bathroom is absolutely necessary for me.

Opinions can be very different. In the bathroom, I just open the windows for ventilation, and that’s enough. It’s great if you have two windows to create a cross breeze. With clay plaster, even a fogged-up mirror in an unheated bathroom clears within minutes. There’s no need for mechanical ventilation or fans.
I’m not a fan of all the ventilation systems because I can hardly imagine they wouldn’t eventually become breeding grounds for germs. It’s technology I prefer to avoid in my house.
My gut feeling favors the “vapor-permeable construction” method.
The ventilated rainscreen facade (larch wood in our case) is fantastic.
face261 May 2020 13:19
Daniel-Sp schrieb:

It's not about the water vapor generated inside the rooms. Ventilation, either manual or mechanical, is responsible for that.

Ah, then which one is it about?