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Bauexperte15 Nov 2012 12:51Hello,
The next question is, of course, why it must be a bungalow or whether you simply mean a building project with only the ground floor developed? This is also a cost question, because a square bungalow of 106 sqm (1,142 sq ft) living area – without a ready-to-finish attic – costs around EUR 170,000 and a comparable detached house with 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft) living area costs about EUR 180,000. Both are built on a slab foundation and to KfW 70 energy standard; the detached house already has a fully developed attic.
What does the zoning plan / textual regulations say about where you are allowed to build, and what you may build within the building envelope?
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Bungalowfür4 schrieb:The size of the plot is not the main issue (it depends on how the area within the 430 sqm (4,625 sq ft) is distributed), but primarily the building envelope (building envelope)! This determines whether the bungalow must be square or if an L-shape would be possible. The latter would be much better suited for your wish to keep 2 children's rooms in reserve in the attic, because the roof pitch of a bungalow generally ranges between 22 - 30° and with a square building footprint, there is usually not much space available for rooms of any kind.
The plan is for a bungalow of about 80-100 sqm (860-1,076 sq ft) initially for the two of us. Since we want children, we want to have the option to develop the attic later. (30-40 sqm (320-430 sq ft) just for children's rooms with their own bathroom) ... 430 sqm (4,625 sq ft) should be enough
The next question is, of course, why it must be a bungalow or whether you simply mean a building project with only the ground floor developed? This is also a cost question, because a square bungalow of 106 sqm (1,142 sq ft) living area – without a ready-to-finish attic – costs around EUR 170,000 and a comparable detached house with 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft) living area costs about EUR 180,000. Both are built on a slab foundation and to KfW 70 energy standard; the detached house already has a fully developed attic.
What does the zoning plan / textual regulations say about where you are allowed to build, and what you may build within the building envelope?
Kind regards
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Bungalowfür415 Nov 2012 13:10Bauexperte schrieb:
What does the development plan / the written regulations say about which building zones you are allowed to use and what you can construct there?I’ll quote:
In general residential areas, according to § 4(2) of the Land Use Ordinance, the following are permitted:
- Residential buildings
- x
- x
The ridge height above the highest point... (text) may be a maximum of 9.5 meters (31 feet).
Is that information sufficient for you?
Well, considering the prices, I think we need to reconsider. We initially focused directly on the age—that you don’t necessarily have to build upward anymore, etc. On the website of a major construction company, there is a bungalow (without a finished attic) with 92 sqm (990 sq ft) for 115,xxx € “turnkey” (only excluding wallpapering and carpet installation). Of course, the level of finishes is hard to estimate, but for the planned size, we based it on that price range plus additional costs (~ 35,000 € calculated).
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Bauexperte15 Nov 2012 13:31Hello,
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Bungalowfür4 schrieb:This sounds more like a two-story development than what you are aiming for. Is there anywhere it explicitly states that bungalows are allowed?
In general residential areas, according to § 4(2) of the land use ordinance, the following are permitted:
- Residential buildings
- x
- x
The ridge heights may not exceed a maximum of 9.5 meters (31 feet) above the highest point… (text)
Bungalowfür4 schrieb:No, not really…
Is this information sufficient for you?
Bungalowfür4 schrieb:That is reasonable to start with; you can also incorporate age-appropriate distances/fixtures in a traditional single-family house. You just need to make sure that a lift can be installed on the staircase to be built, if my assumption about the permitted development is correct => two-story building.
Well, with these prices, I think we need to reconsider. We initially thought directly about aging in place. That you don’t necessarily have to go upstairs, etc.
Bungalowfür4 schrieb:Honestly, I’m getting tired of hearing/reading this—nobody gives anything away. You should carefully review this provider’s offer, especially the general terms and conditions and contractual arrangements. It is simply not possible to construct a reasonable quality bungalow for a price per sqm (living area) of €1,250.00.
On the website of a large construction company, there is a bungalow (without a finished attic) with 92 sqm (990 sq ft) for €115.xxx turnkey (only without wallpapering and carpet installation). Of course, you cannot assess the quality of the fittings…
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Bungalowfür415 Nov 2012 13:39Residential buildings = 1.0 to 2.0 storeys (sorry!)
I understand that nobody is giving anything away for free, thanks for the "subtle" hint...
The local company we are considering is already building in the development area.
A 1.5-storey house at a price of €1150 per square meter (in your calculation above it would be €1500), so the prices here are clearly quite different.
I understand that nobody is giving anything away for free, thanks for the "subtle" hint...
The local company we are considering is already building in the development area.
A 1.5-storey house at a price of €1150 per square meter (in your calculation above it would be €1500), so the prices here are clearly quite different.
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Bungalowfür415 Nov 2012 13:39Residential buildings = 1 to 2 stories (sorry!)
I understand that nobody is giving anything away for free, thanks for the "subtle" hint….
The local company we have in mind is already building in the development area.
A 1.5-story house at a price of 1150 € per square meter (according to your calculation above it would be 1500 €), so clearly there are quite different prices here.
I understand that nobody is giving anything away for free, thanks for the "subtle" hint….
The local company we have in mind is already building in the development area.
A 1.5-story house at a price of 1150 € per square meter (according to your calculation above it would be 1500 €), so clearly there are quite different prices here.
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Bauexperte15 Nov 2012 13:49Hello,
Chasing an apparently low price is seldom a good investment.
I just noticed you registered from Lower Saxony – there it is usually up to max. 5% cheaper. If it is more than that, again the advice: read very carefully.
Kind regards
Bungalowfür4 schrieb:The question remains how to assess the offered price. With "my" price, you order the moving van and move into a KfW 70 energy-efficient house. Is that also the case with the €1150 per square meter offer? In other words, you need to read very carefully – whatever is not included in the building specifications or explicitly stated in the contract in writing should be considered as not part of the purchase!
The local company we are considering is already building in the development area. A 1.5-story house at a price of €1150 per square meter (in your calculation above it would be €1500) – so the prices are clearly different here.
Chasing an apparently low price is seldom a good investment.
I just noticed you registered from Lower Saxony – there it is usually up to max. 5% cheaper. If it is more than that, again the advice: read very carefully.
Kind regards
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