ᐅ Preliminary Planning + Floor Plan Proposal – Single-Family Home 950 m²
Created on: 26 Apr 2020 23:24
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ChriSchi1
Hello everyone,
Our house construction is coming up, and we (2 adults, currently 1 baby) have spent several weeks looking through countless floor plans, brochures, show homes, etc. I have incorporated one of these with some changes into my own design. For this, I used the program Sweet Home 3D.
The orientation is definitely worth discussing. We have neighbors directly to the north and south, and to the east there is the street plus more neighbors. To the west is a garden approximately 12 meters wide (about 40 feet) with a row of medium-height deciduous trees, beyond which is an agricultural access path. Our main focus for garden and relaxation space will be to the west, but we also have garden space to the south next to the neighbor. We deliberately decided against combining kitchen and living-dining areas in one line and wanted the kitchen to be somewhat separated. The kitchen facing southeast brings a lot of light and allows you to notice more quickly when someone comes home or the mail carrier arrives.
Assuming the floor plan stays as it is, I have the following questions:
- What do you generally think about the floor plan? Have we overlooked something?
- Is it sensible to attach the study and have it under one roof with the garage, as drawn? (The idea was to have it somewhat isolated from the family bustle.) Or would it make more sense to build the study above the garage and thus integrate the garage directly into the house? The access to the study would then be on the upper floor.
- Is the utility room large enough for the ground source heat pump and house connections? The photovoltaic inverter could possibly go in the garage, right?
- The basement is not yet entirely ruled out; if we choose it, I would definitely include the study in the main building envelope.
I am open to general suggestions (for example, a completely different orientation or style) as well as specific comments on the floor plan. I just didn’t want to come here without having done some thinking of my own, like “please brainstorm for me,” so I have already put something on paper.
The completed questionnaire will be posted in the second post.
Thanks in advance!
Our house construction is coming up, and we (2 adults, currently 1 baby) have spent several weeks looking through countless floor plans, brochures, show homes, etc. I have incorporated one of these with some changes into my own design. For this, I used the program Sweet Home 3D.
The orientation is definitely worth discussing. We have neighbors directly to the north and south, and to the east there is the street plus more neighbors. To the west is a garden approximately 12 meters wide (about 40 feet) with a row of medium-height deciduous trees, beyond which is an agricultural access path. Our main focus for garden and relaxation space will be to the west, but we also have garden space to the south next to the neighbor. We deliberately decided against combining kitchen and living-dining areas in one line and wanted the kitchen to be somewhat separated. The kitchen facing southeast brings a lot of light and allows you to notice more quickly when someone comes home or the mail carrier arrives.
Assuming the floor plan stays as it is, I have the following questions:
- What do you generally think about the floor plan? Have we overlooked something?
- Is it sensible to attach the study and have it under one roof with the garage, as drawn? (The idea was to have it somewhat isolated from the family bustle.) Or would it make more sense to build the study above the garage and thus integrate the garage directly into the house? The access to the study would then be on the upper floor.
- Is the utility room large enough for the ground source heat pump and house connections? The photovoltaic inverter could possibly go in the garage, right?
- The basement is not yet entirely ruled out; if we choose it, I would definitely include the study in the main building envelope.
I am open to general suggestions (for example, a completely different orientation or style) as well as specific comments on the floor plan. I just didn’t want to come here without having done some thinking of my own, like “please brainstorm for me,” so I have already put something on paper.
The completed questionnaire will be posted in the second post.
Thanks in advance!
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Alessandro27 Apr 2020 10:20The house feels completely cramped and not spacious at all on the ground floor. More like a prison with a long corridor.
Your ground floor plan reminds me a bit of the more recent versions from https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Flachdach-waldrandlage-175-qm.30201/ – maybe you can find something useful for your own project there.
Calling three children's rooms "ambitious" in this case.
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ChriSchi1 schrieb:
2 adults, currently 1 baby
Calling three children's rooms "ambitious" in this case.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
We are currently building a 240 sqm (2,583 sq ft) house with three children's bedrooms. Your budget will never be enough, let alone with the desired features. First, you should consider fundamentally how much you can afford to spend and adjust the house accordingly. Otherwise, the discussion isn't productive.
The 2,000 EUR/sqm (approximately $2,100 per sq ft) often mentioned here is a good benchmark (but you still need to add garage, additional construction costs, landscaping, kitchen, and other furnishings/built-ins/special requests).
Alternatively, you would need a huge amount of personal labor and coordination between several trades—but even then, a total of 400,000 EUR (about $420,000) would not be sufficient.
The 2,000 EUR/sqm (approximately $2,100 per sq ft) often mentioned here is a good benchmark (but you still need to add garage, additional construction costs, landscaping, kitchen, and other furnishings/built-ins/special requests).
Alternatively, you would need a huge amount of personal labor and coordination between several trades—but even then, a total of 400,000 EUR (about $420,000) would not be sufficient.
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ChriSchi127 Apr 2020 17:42Tarnari schrieb:
Where is your storage space?Valid point. I added everything up again and came to a possible "wardrobe length" of 8m (26 feet) on the ground floor (cloakroom + office). The wardrobes could be floor-to-ceiling and are currently planned with a depth of 50cm (20 inches). Additionally, there is the entire storage room behind the garage, two large closets in the dressing room, and the attic. Although the attic, with a knee wall height of 30cm (12 inches) and a roof pitch of 27°, might be a bit tight. I also want to use the space under the stairs, either as storage with access from the hallway or as an extension of the pantry for water crates, potato sacks, etc.RomeoZwo schrieb:
Why don’t you plan the garage as a boundary building to the north? That would enlarge the garden on the south side. Otherwise, I think the orientation on the plot is quite good.I’ve thought about that too and initially believed it wouldn't be possible if the garage is directly connected to the house (i.e., one building). However, I now believe the garage can be considered a separate building, even if directly attached to the house. The regional building regulations, as I learned, define a separate building as one that can be independently used (i.e., has its own entrance).11ant schrieb:
Your ground floor reminds me a bit of the newer versions in https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Flachdach-waldrandlage-175-qm.30201/ – maybe you can take away some useful ideas for your own design.
Calling three children’s bedrooms “ambitious” Honestly, the two kids are the "problem" I worry about least. Thanks for the link – I’ll skim through it.haydee schrieb:
What exactly should be covered by the budget?
There is not enough storage.
A lot of hallway space.
Kitchen opening onto the terrace.
What is the empty space in the kitchen for?
I would make the staircase a bit wider.Storage, see above. There might be a lot of hallway – I’ve thought that too. But if I count everything below the stove to the living area, the hallway is only about 10% of the ground floor. The kitchen can be arranged entirely differently. The pantry access must remain clear. I think with 18m² (194 square feet) of kitchen area, I should be fine, right? The staircase is currently 1.0m (3.3 feet) wide and the main hallway next to it is 1.2m (4 feet). I didn’t want to make the hallway too narrow. I’ll keep the staircase width in mind.Crossy schrieb:
We are also building 240m² (2,583 sq ft) with 3 children’s bedrooms. Your budget will never be enough. Not even for the fittings. First, you should make a fundamental decision on how much you can spend and then adapt the house accordingly. Otherwise, discussions won’t make much sense. The often-quoted 2000 EUR/m² (about $190 per sq ft) is a good benchmark (but then add garage + additional construction costs + landscaping + kitchen + other furnishings/built-ins/custom requests) or alternatively lots of DIY work and coordinating multiple trades (but even then, 400k all-in is unlikely).Have you opened a dedicated thread? I would like to take a look.The price expectations have been criticized several times – I was probably too optimistic. I want to add that the land is not included in the 400k (we already own it). We’re planning a lot of DIY work. I come from a small town, and you know many people who can help with trades (unfortunately, no architect among them). We can afford 500k but I might have to reduce the floor plan slightly.
I noticed I forgot an important detail, which is why the “prison corridor” analogy was used here. The wall behind the sofa is supposed to be only about 1.10m (3.6 feet) high, see attached picture. Along with the window in the cloakroom, this should let enough light pass through the entire house.
The area I probably "waste" the most space on is between the staircase and dining table. However, I don’t want to clutter it up and can’t think of a better solution. On the other hand, it’s nice to have some space that isn’t fully planned. What do you think? Is it too wasteful?
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