Hello everyone,
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
At our developer, a customer who had reserved a plot of land dropped out. Since the other plot faces south / southwest, we didn’t hesitate long and switched to that plot. The new plot is smaller, so we gave up on our bungalow dream. The plot number is 5.
To remind you: The plot is tied to the developer.
I have been thinking over the past few days about the arrangement and design of the rooms and the plot, and I would first like to know if the concept is okay. I am not concerned with details inside the rooms such as windows, doors, or bathroom design. That’s not possible anyway since I created the floor plan myself based on Gussek Haus floor plans. However, I tried to design it as well as possible. For this reason, I want to share the floor plan here for discussion. I’m mainly looking for feedback on the layout and room arrangement, as well as ideas, suggestions, or tips. Maybe you’ll also spot things that “just don’t work” or are not practical for everyday living.
I created the floor plan with RoomSketcher, but only used the free version, so many features are limited. Please ignore the room dimensions on the upper floor. There is a dormer in the area of the home office.
A few more details about the house.
Roof pitch 38°
Knee wall (Drempel) 100cm (39 inches)
External dimensions 12.85 x 9.60 m (42.2 x 31.5 feet) (enlarged, original dimensions of Gussek Haus models are smaller)
Unfortunately, I cannot show internal room dimensions because RoomSketcher does not allow it.
Attached again is the completed questionnaire.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 676m²
Slope: NO
Site coverage ratio: 0.4 (allowed exceedance 25 out of 100)
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: On the north side / south side approx. 20.5 m (67 feet) wide, west and east sides approx. 33 m (108 feet) wide, 3 m (10 feet) building setback on each side, rectangular plot, clearly visible in the pictures
Edge construction setback: 3 m (10 feet)
Number of parking spaces: no requirement
Number of stories: maximum 2 full stories
Roof style: Gable roof, hipped roof
Other requirements: Garage must be 5 m (16 feet) from the property boundary. Garage on the west side because the curb is lowered there.
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Doesn’t matter, initially considered a house with a gable roof, there is a dormer in the home office area
Basement, number of floors: No basement due to high groundwater level
Number of occupants, ages: 4 people aged 36 (female), 37 (male), 3 (child), 1 (child)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor: Living/dining/kitchen area, utility room, guest WC with shower, hallway with coat area and stairs to upper floor, guest room / playroom
Upper floor: Master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, storage room, office
Office use: Family use or home office? Home office combined with family use
Guests per year: 1–2 times
Open or closed architecture: Closed architecture?
Conservative or modern style: A mix of both
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Closed kitchen with island would be nice but not a must; open kitchen is also an option
Number of dining seats: 4, with the option for 6
Fireplace: No
Music / stereo wall: Sound system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Space for 2 cars is required, preferably 3 to 4. Currently considering a garage (3 x 6 m / 9.8 x 19.7 feet) with a carport (3.6 m / 12 feet) in front, not sure if that works. Plus 2 parking spaces in front of the house.
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be:
House Design
Who created the design:
- DIY - copy and combination of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What do you especially like? Why?
- Large closed kitchen with island and direct / short access to the terrace
- Living room close to the terrace
- Guest / playroom on the ground floor
- Storage room on the upper floor with washing machine and dryer
- Utility room with washing machine and dryer (yes, twice)
- 6 rooms
- Layout of rooms on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
- Location of the home office on the upper floor is not ideal in my view, but I could live with it
Price estimate from architect/planner: No new estimate so far
Personal price limit for house including features: 400,000
Preferred heating system: Heat pump
Why does the design look like it does now? For example:
Copy-paste of Gussek Haus models Lindenallee, Kiefernallee variant 1, and Buchenallee variant 2
What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the room layout okay?
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Chrisi190622 Apr 2020 19:4811ant schrieb:
Hope dies last
Regarding the double casement window above the staircase, I don’t think you need to worry: just attach a longer spray lance and then clean it from the double casement window of the storage room using a pressure washer. I think I don’t want the extra window above the existing window. I believe it worsens the appearance of the house. The idea with the fairy tale sounds good. Shouldn’t it also be possible to do it from the outside using a ladder?
kaho674 schrieb:
Google: Staircase basics Thanks, that’s exactly what I was looking for.
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Chrisi190622 Apr 2020 19:51Chrisi1906 schrieb:
No, that’s not what I meant. I don’t want to design a different house or significantly widen the floor plan. We could make the storage room smaller and use a curved staircase again. My wife suggested simply recessing the bathroom, so the storage room could remain that size.
There was this great link outside the forum that showed stair dimensions. Do you know what I mean? Unfortunately, I can’t find the link anymore.
It’s not about Gussek House for me; I just liked the floor plan. That’s why I won’t start over. We don’t have an architect, just a planner. The planner will hand over the floor plan to the architect and will hopefully address any potential issues.For now, I’ll hold off on the curved staircase.
Chrisi1906 schrieb:
The idea with the fairy tale sounds good.? ? ?Chrisi1906 schrieb:
I’ll hold off on the curved staircase for now.Curved?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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What would bother me is the relatively small living room, where only a tiny table fits (we have 10 sqm (108 sq ft) more than you, and I find it perfect). I also find the sofa in front of the patio door impractical, and I generally miss a window facing west in the living room. The somewhat patchy kitchen layout (a cabinet here, another there) would also bother me, as well as the slightly oversized guest room and the awkward entrance area, where it’s unclear whether to go straight, left, or right.
If you can let go of the (boring) symmetry of the facade, you might like my suggestion. You enter and immediately get a wow effect. Through a double glass door, you have a direct line of sight towards the garden. I would solve the kitchen with a sliding door. The utility room would be accessible again from the kitchen, so it can be used for storage. And since you want to do laundry upstairs, you would only enter it occasionally to get the vacuum cleaner and such—so rather rarely. Upstairs, you could continue the wide window motif from the office in the middle.
If you can let go of the (boring) symmetry of the facade, you might like my suggestion. You enter and immediately get a wow effect. Through a double glass door, you have a direct line of sight towards the garden. I would solve the kitchen with a sliding door. The utility room would be accessible again from the kitchen, so it can be used for storage. And since you want to do laundry upstairs, you would only enter it occasionally to get the vacuum cleaner and such—so rather rarely. Upstairs, you could continue the wide window motif from the office in the middle.
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Chrisi190622 Apr 2020 23:25First of all, thank you for your feedback.
The living/dining room is not huge but it’s sufficient. I’m having the window by the dining table replaced with a large sliding door—I’m curious to see how it will look. I might change it again later. Our table isn’t bigger, so I only had a small table drawn in. I don’t find the sofa in front of the patio door problematic. To be honest, I prefer the long wall because it allows more flexibility for the wall unit design.
I’ve had the kitchen redesigned into an L-shape. However, that’s not too important since a kitchen planner should finalize it anyway. In your floor plan, I find it impractical that you have to pass through the utility room to get to the kitchen. An open kitchen always needs to be kept tidy, but both my wife and I tend to leave things out, so a closed kitchen works better for us. Also, I don’t really agree that the utility room can be used for storage. The kitchen is already quite large, and everything can be nicely hidden away in cabinets if desired.
There is definitely a wow factor in your floor plan because of the large door leading to the living/dining area. But that’s not our priority—we want it simple and practical.
The entrance area bothered me at first, too, because it’s unclear whether to go left, right, or straight ahead. But I’ve seen this in some other good floor plans, so it’s okay with me.
The living/dining room is not huge but it’s sufficient. I’m having the window by the dining table replaced with a large sliding door—I’m curious to see how it will look. I might change it again later. Our table isn’t bigger, so I only had a small table drawn in. I don’t find the sofa in front of the patio door problematic. To be honest, I prefer the long wall because it allows more flexibility for the wall unit design.
I’ve had the kitchen redesigned into an L-shape. However, that’s not too important since a kitchen planner should finalize it anyway. In your floor plan, I find it impractical that you have to pass through the utility room to get to the kitchen. An open kitchen always needs to be kept tidy, but both my wife and I tend to leave things out, so a closed kitchen works better for us. Also, I don’t really agree that the utility room can be used for storage. The kitchen is already quite large, and everything can be nicely hidden away in cabinets if desired.
There is definitely a wow factor in your floor plan because of the large door leading to the living/dining area. But that’s not our priority—we want it simple and practical.
The entrance area bothered me at first, too, because it’s unclear whether to go left, right, or straight ahead. But I’ve seen this in some other good floor plans, so it’s okay with me.
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Chrisi190622 Apr 2020 23:2811ant schrieb:
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Curved?Sorry, my iPad autocorrected the wrong word. Märchen = Kärchern (pressure washing).
Curved staircase = staircase turned 180°. Just like in the original Lindeneck floor plan.
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