ᐅ Floor Plan Design Basement and Ground Floor – Sloped Site
Created on: 21 Apr 2020 18:35
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Sternchen31
Hello everyone,
The floor plan is almost finished, and now I would like to hear your opinions. We can still make changes if needed.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 717 sqm (7,716 sq ft)
Slope: downhill, 10% gradient
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge developments:
Number of parking spaces: prefabricated garage / double garage 6 x 7 m (20 x 23 ft)
Building levels: basement + ground floor
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor
Number of residents, age: 2 adults / 1 toddler
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 140 sqm (1,507 sq ft)
Office: children’s room / office / guest room combined
Number of overnight guests per year: 3
Fireplace: no
Terrace: yes
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House Design
Designer: planner from a construction company
What do you especially like? Why? Mostly drawn according to our wishes
What don’t you like? Why? Dining area too narrow between kitchen and living room (the left kitchen unit must be this long (from left to right: raised dishwasher, oven and microwave stacked, door to pantry, side-by-side refrigerator, tall cabinet). On the right side, we are considering shortening it a bit to gain more space in the dining area.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: €400,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: €410,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you give up: open
- can’t you give up: open
Why is the design as it is now?
We spent a long time drawing, changing, and adapting ourselves. This is the result of collaboration between the planner and our wishes.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? All
Information:
The house will be a single-family home built in solid construction, KFW55 standard, with photovoltaic system, underfloor heating, air-to-water heat pump, gable roof with a 22° pitch. The family planning is complete with 2 adults and 1 toddler. The house is built on a sloped hillside plot with a 10% gradient, accessed from the street. The basement parts fully covered by earth are made of waterproof concrete, the rest is masonry. The south side faces the street and thus has the main terrace. The passage between kitchen and pantry is hidden behind a concealed door in the kitchen wall unit. From the entrance area to the pantry, access is either via a sliding door or a regular door opening towards the pantry. A lifting system for the lower bathroom is not required since the slope from bathroom to sewer will be 2.8%. The sewer connection on our property is located at a depth of 3.39 meters (11 ft). The house will also be built slightly higher than the street level. A backflow valve is, of course, planned. From the lower bathroom, there is another door leading into the rear garden (north/east). Instead of a deeper foundation due to the slope, the double garage (prefabricated garage) will have a transverse utility garage with a side door, 3 x 7 m (10 x 23 ft), so it can be used as storage / cellar / garden equipment space. The terrace will not extend as much around the corner as in the plan, allowing the ground to slope down more quickly there.
After so much planning, thinking, and revising, it is easy to become blind to details and overlook some things. Therefore, we appreciate any criticism, tips, tricks, and suggestions
Fire away & thank you very much in advance.
The floor plan is almost finished, and now I would like to hear your opinions. We can still make changes if needed.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 717 sqm (7,716 sq ft)
Slope: downhill, 10% gradient
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge developments:
Number of parking spaces: prefabricated garage / double garage 6 x 7 m (20 x 23 ft)
Building levels: basement + ground floor
Roof style: gable roof
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: basement + ground floor
Number of residents, age: 2 adults / 1 toddler
Space requirement on ground and upper floors: approx. 140 sqm (1,507 sq ft)
Office: children’s room / office / guest room combined
Number of overnight guests per year: 3
Fireplace: no
Terrace: yes
Garage, carport: double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House Design
Designer: planner from a construction company
What do you especially like? Why? Mostly drawn according to our wishes
What don’t you like? Why? Dining area too narrow between kitchen and living room (the left kitchen unit must be this long (from left to right: raised dishwasher, oven and microwave stacked, door to pantry, side-by-side refrigerator, tall cabinet). On the right side, we are considering shortening it a bit to gain more space in the dining area.
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: €400,000
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: €410,000
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you give up: open
- can’t you give up: open
Why is the design as it is now?
We spent a long time drawing, changing, and adapting ourselves. This is the result of collaboration between the planner and our wishes.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? All
Information:
The house will be a single-family home built in solid construction, KFW55 standard, with photovoltaic system, underfloor heating, air-to-water heat pump, gable roof with a 22° pitch. The family planning is complete with 2 adults and 1 toddler. The house is built on a sloped hillside plot with a 10% gradient, accessed from the street. The basement parts fully covered by earth are made of waterproof concrete, the rest is masonry. The south side faces the street and thus has the main terrace. The passage between kitchen and pantry is hidden behind a concealed door in the kitchen wall unit. From the entrance area to the pantry, access is either via a sliding door or a regular door opening towards the pantry. A lifting system for the lower bathroom is not required since the slope from bathroom to sewer will be 2.8%. The sewer connection on our property is located at a depth of 3.39 meters (11 ft). The house will also be built slightly higher than the street level. A backflow valve is, of course, planned. From the lower bathroom, there is another door leading into the rear garden (north/east). Instead of a deeper foundation due to the slope, the double garage (prefabricated garage) will have a transverse utility garage with a side door, 3 x 7 m (10 x 23 ft), so it can be used as storage / cellar / garden equipment space. The terrace will not extend as much around the corner as in the plan, allowing the ground to slope down more quickly there.
After so much planning, thinking, and revising, it is easy to become blind to details and overlook some things. Therefore, we appreciate any criticism, tips, tricks, and suggestions
Fire away & thank you very much in advance.
Access to the garden is really blocked. On one hand, I think it’s nice that the child has direct access. On the other hand, you can only reach the garden now through the bathroom. That’s a pity. How do guests get to the garden? Is there an external staircase? Or do you only use the south terrace when you have guests?
I can’t really understand the issue with the bathroom and the dirty child. I would find it unpleasant if I enter my relaxation bathroom and see dirt clumps and sand crumbs scattered on the tiles. Also, I wonder how long your son really needs to play in the sandbox that much?
I think this direct access to the pantry is a bit over the top. I find other things more important. But okay, if that’s how you want it. By the way, we have just over 4m2 (43 square feet) for the pantry. It includes: 1.5m (5 feet) of shelving for cans, pasta, etc., recycling bags, paper bin, glass container, water crates (7!), beer crate, wine rack, shelf for hand brooms, bags, and similar items. So I don’t see a risk of your pantry being too small.
Having the guest toilet almost in the open-plan living area doesn’t seem good to me. This way, you have toilet noises directly in the living room. The door alone doesn’t stop the regular flushing sounds when guests use it. That’s uncomfortable for both you and the guests. If you really want to sleep upstairs later, a shower in the guest toilet would also be useful.
I can’t really understand the issue with the bathroom and the dirty child. I would find it unpleasant if I enter my relaxation bathroom and see dirt clumps and sand crumbs scattered on the tiles. Also, I wonder how long your son really needs to play in the sandbox that much?
I think this direct access to the pantry is a bit over the top. I find other things more important. But okay, if that’s how you want it. By the way, we have just over 4m2 (43 square feet) for the pantry. It includes: 1.5m (5 feet) of shelving for cans, pasta, etc., recycling bags, paper bin, glass container, water crates (7!), beer crate, wine rack, shelf for hand brooms, bags, and similar items. So I don’t see a risk of your pantry being too small.
Having the guest toilet almost in the open-plan living area doesn’t seem good to me. This way, you have toilet noises directly in the living room. The door alone doesn’t stop the regular flushing sounds when guests use it. That’s uncomfortable for both you and the guests. If you really want to sleep upstairs later, a shower in the guest toilet would also be useful.
I find the division of the garden inconvenient. My son plays downstairs, and one of you has to go with him. Water is often forgotten to be carried back upstairs. The barbecue area is all the way downstairs and then back up again.
I am in favor of swapping the ground floor and basement levels.
If you decide against such a swap, please ensure there is direct access from the hallway to the garden.
I would never think of showering my child after every digging session. At the moment, that would mean bathing her up to five times a day. When guests’ children are around, sand inevitably ends up everywhere in the house.
I don’t think the utility room for technical equipment, storage, and laundry is too large.
The ground floor feels outdated and cramped.
Please check the dining area; it looks a bit small. Unfortunately, I cannot read any dimensions on the plan. The quality does not match.
I am in favor of swapping the ground floor and basement levels.
If you decide against such a swap, please ensure there is direct access from the hallway to the garden.
I would never think of showering my child after every digging session. At the moment, that would mean bathing her up to five times a day. When guests’ children are around, sand inevitably ends up everywhere in the house.
I don’t think the utility room for technical equipment, storage, and laundry is too large.
The ground floor feels outdated and cramped.
Please check the dining area; it looks a bit small. Unfortunately, I cannot read any dimensions on the plan. The quality does not match.
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Sternchen3121 Apr 2020 22:07kaho674 schrieb:
The access to the garden is really blocked. On one hand, I think it’s nice that the child has direct access. On the other hand, you can’t get into the garden except through the bathroom. That’s a pity. How do guests get into the garden? Is there an outdoor staircase? Or do you only use the south terrace with guests?
The 3D models are confusing because they haven’t been updated regarding the outdoor area yet. Yes, there are ways to get from both the front and top sides down to the backyard. We have planned a staircase in the passage between the garage and the house that goes down on the side, behind the garage. Also, the terrace won’t be paved so far around the corner and will only be about 1 meter (3 feet) wider than the corner of the house. The remaining 4 meters (13 feet) up to the property boundary will be left as naturally sloping terrain. You can walk normally from the sun terrace on the right side of the house, behind it into the backyard, and back.
Furthermore, you can also access the sun terrace without having to enter the house. We will install a small gate in front of the house leading into the garden, so guests can be received directly from the terrace.
Well, that’s not exactly what I meant about the bathroom, but it’s better than going through our bedroom and nursery. I wouldn’t feel comfortable having a door in the bedroom or nursery. I need to rethink that.
Ah, the tip about your pantry is good, thanks! I’ve heard that at least 5-6 square meters (54-65 square feet) are needed to have enough space, which is how we ended up with that size.
So you have really thought everything through well, making sure it suits your family. It’s great how you can explain all your decisions. And if the house is set back 10 m (33 feet) from the street, having the terrace facing south works fine. Neighbors can also see the backyard, so it might not be completely quiet there either.
I have just made some slight revisions to your floor plan, mainly removing the angled walls, enlarging the living room, and separating the guest toilet from the living area. The shower is a good point; perhaps the toilet could be extended towards the study room. The staircase is now positioned slightly further south. Bathroom furniture and windows still need to be adjusted. Hopefully, some of these ideas will be useful to you.
I have just made some slight revisions to your floor plan, mainly removing the angled walls, enlarging the living room, and separating the guest toilet from the living area. The shower is a good point; perhaps the toilet could be extended towards the study room. The staircase is now positioned slightly further south. Bathroom furniture and windows still need to be adjusted. Hopefully, some of these ideas will be useful to you.
You could have easily figured this out yourself instead of making us start the discussion as if from scratch. I was just about to link you a similar thread when I saw it was your own: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/eg-ug-mit-schlafraeumen-Bad-im-ug-was-meint-ihr-zur-Planung.33637/ – and in this one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Hanglage-einschaetzen.32724/ there was already some information from the development plan.
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Sternchen31 schrieb:... this is supposed to clearly mean that a third module, also in the form of a prefabricated garage, will be slid underneath the downhill end of the double garage, rotated by 90°? The house design seems to me as if it was not planned for this slope location, but rather a cookie-cutter design from the builder for an urban villa, with the upper floor simply cut off and partially exposed basement added underneath. The result is a combination made solely of individually proven, normally functioning standard elements, including the prefabricated garages, which nevertheless spectacularly misses the mark and at best convinces only "adequately." It’s easy to build a question mark out of rotated, hastily patched-together innocent parts and then wonder why it fails to ignite enthusiasm, even though nothing was really done wrong :-(
Instead of a deeper foundation on the slope side, a transverse utility garage will be placed next to the double garage (prefabricated garage).
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hampshire22 Apr 2020 00:29It’s nice to see how the vision and design come together. I like it.
In the garden area, I would reconsider having direct access from the bedroom – even if it is a floor-to-ceiling walk-through window.
As you already mentioned, the kitchen is very large in the living area, and the dining area is comparatively small. A kitchen planner might be able to optimize this and fit the kitchen requirements into less space.
A budget margin of only €10,000 could prove to be too tight compared to the architect’s estimate.
In the garden area, I would reconsider having direct access from the bedroom – even if it is a floor-to-ceiling walk-through window.
As you already mentioned, the kitchen is very large in the living area, and the dining area is comparatively small. A kitchen planner might be able to optimize this and fit the kitchen requirements into less space.
A budget margin of only €10,000 could prove to be too tight compared to the architect’s estimate.
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