Hello everyone,
great to see so much information being shared here to help out!
My question:
We have a budget of 200,000 for a turnkey house construction (including everything!). This means also garden, earthworks, foundation slab, etc. Please assume fully turnkey!
A basement is not necessarily planned, unless someone can convince me that having one, or even a partial basement, would be more cost-effective.
As I said, the house including all additional costs and everything around it should not exceed 200,000.
The plot of land is separate.
My question: Is this budget sufficient?
Alternatively: Would a semi-detached house be cheaper? I assume I would save only one wall and some land, right?
And—please calculate separately—what additional costs would peat soil add, expressed in Euros?
Many thanks in advance for your kind help and efforts!!!!
great to see so much information being shared here to help out!
My question:
We have a budget of 200,000 for a turnkey house construction (including everything!). This means also garden, earthworks, foundation slab, etc. Please assume fully turnkey!
A basement is not necessarily planned, unless someone can convince me that having one, or even a partial basement, would be more cost-effective.
As I said, the house including all additional costs and everything around it should not exceed 200,000.
The plot of land is separate.
My question: Is this budget sufficient?
Alternatively: Would a semi-detached house be cheaper? I assume I would save only one wall and some land, right?
And—please calculate separately—what additional costs would peat soil add, expressed in Euros?
Many thanks in advance for your kind help and efforts!!!!
Ollibo schrieb:
Thank you for the brief reply, but it doesn't really help because the explanations are missing.Oh man, construction expert, how can you respond without providing any reasons?
Ollibo schrieb:
What exactly is missing that makes building a house impossible at that price?Wrong! The question should be: What do I have to remove to make building a house possible at this price?
Have a look around the forum; costs are discussed here all day long. You will surely find what you’re looking for....
Best regards
B
Bauexperte22 Oct 2012 11:58Hello,
I am tired of answering the same questions over and over when it is not too much to expect people to do some reading before posting. Always making others do the work is not exactly what I understand as asking for help.
Kind regards
Ollibo schrieb:E.Curb has already pointed you to read here on the HBF!
Thank you for the brief reply, which unfortunately doesn’t help much because it lacks explanations. For example, why is a two-story house acceptable but not a bungalow?
How much should I budget for a house without the land? Fully turnkey?
I am tired of answering the same questions over and over when it is not too much to expect people to do some reading before posting. Always making others do the work is not exactly what I understand as asking for help.
Kind regards
BuildingExpert schrieb:
Hello,
E.Curb already suggested that you read the information here on the main forum!
I am tired of answering the same questions over and over. Taking some time to do a bit of reading before posting is not too much to ask. Always expecting others to do the work is not what I consider asking for help.
Kind regardsOh, you seem quite irritated here.
That’s not helpful. Responding with arrogance is also not appropriate.
Of course, I could spend hours or days searching through the forum. However, what I’m looking for are current figures, not ones from 1900 or 2000... A lot has changed since then.
Instead of being unfriendly to newcomers, it would probably be better not to reply at all.
@Nilo: Thanks. I have a similar offer, but from Weberhaus. Since the provider is quite expensive and the house was also costly, I thought it might be possible to find something cheaper. We definitely don’t want to do any DIY work ourselves.
We could add a bit more than 200 (square meters) (about 2,150 square feet).
We would definitely save if we could choose a smaller plot. But that will probably cost at least 450 (square meters) (about 4,845 square feet) for a detached house. For a semi-detached, more like 300 (square meters) (about 3,230 square feet). The price per square meter is between 310 and 330. Additional fees will probably apply on top of that.
With a semi-detached house, the question is how it would even work. We want to move in quickly—that’s why we want a prefab house—but is there a neighbor who wants the same?
Ollibo schrieb:
Of course, I can spend hours or even days browsing through the forum. But what I'm looking for are current figures, not ones from 1900 or 2000... A lot has changed since then.Those who search will find! Including current figures
Simply put:
Square bungalow:
A floor area of 100 m² (1,076 ft²) has a layout of 10 m x 10 m (33 ft x 33 ft).
That means:
Walls: 4 x 10 m (33 ft) wall length x 2.5 m (8 ft) ceiling height = 100 m² (1,076 ft²) wall area
Foundation slab 10 x 10 m (33 ft x 33 ft) = 100 m² (1,076 ft²) slab area
Roof 10.5 m x 10.5 m (34 ft x 34 ft) = 110 m² (1,184 ft²) roof area
Total building envelope = 310 m² (3,337 ft²)
Square two-story house:
50 m² (538 ft²) floor area per story with a layout of 7.1 m x 7.1 m (23 ft x 23 ft).
That means:
Walls: 4 x 7.1 m (23 ft) wall length x 2.5 m (8 ft) ceiling height x 2 stories = 142 m² (1,528 ft²) wall area
Foundation slab 7.1 x 7.1 m (23 ft x 23 ft) = 50 m² (538 ft²) slab area
Roof 7.6 m x 7.6 m (25 ft x 25 ft) = 58 m² (624 ft²) roof area
Total building envelope = 250 m² (2,691 ft²)
As you can see, the two-story house has less building envelope overall for the same total floor area.
I can’t give you exact unit prices per m² for the roof (including insulation), walls (including insulation and plaster), or foundation slab (including groundwork). I would guess that the wall is still the least expensive element.
Only the staircase adds extra cost in the two-story house, and you need to factor in the floor area required for the stairs.
You will reach the same conclusion if you compare a square house to a rectangular one. A cube simply has the smallest building envelope relative to the internal volume (unless you plan a spherical house).
Square bungalow:
A floor area of 100 m² (1,076 ft²) has a layout of 10 m x 10 m (33 ft x 33 ft).
That means:
Walls: 4 x 10 m (33 ft) wall length x 2.5 m (8 ft) ceiling height = 100 m² (1,076 ft²) wall area
Foundation slab 10 x 10 m (33 ft x 33 ft) = 100 m² (1,076 ft²) slab area
Roof 10.5 m x 10.5 m (34 ft x 34 ft) = 110 m² (1,184 ft²) roof area
Total building envelope = 310 m² (3,337 ft²)
Square two-story house:
50 m² (538 ft²) floor area per story with a layout of 7.1 m x 7.1 m (23 ft x 23 ft).
That means:
Walls: 4 x 7.1 m (23 ft) wall length x 2.5 m (8 ft) ceiling height x 2 stories = 142 m² (1,528 ft²) wall area
Foundation slab 7.1 x 7.1 m (23 ft x 23 ft) = 50 m² (538 ft²) slab area
Roof 7.6 m x 7.6 m (25 ft x 25 ft) = 58 m² (624 ft²) roof area
Total building envelope = 250 m² (2,691 ft²)
As you can see, the two-story house has less building envelope overall for the same total floor area.
I can’t give you exact unit prices per m² for the roof (including insulation), walls (including insulation and plaster), or foundation slab (including groundwork). I would guess that the wall is still the least expensive element.
Only the staircase adds extra cost in the two-story house, and you need to factor in the floor area required for the stairs.
You will reach the same conclusion if you compare a square house to a rectangular one. A cube simply has the smallest building envelope relative to the internal volume (unless you plan a spherical house).
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