ᐅ Single-family house, 165 sqm, without basement – Opinions on the floor plan
Created on: 4 Mar 2020 14:56
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PhinithoHello everyone,
After reading quietly for some time, things are now getting serious for us. We recently purchased a plot of land and are ready to start building our own home.
We had been interested in this plot for a while and have already spent some time trying to find a floor plan that “fits.” We picked up a few ideas here in the forum. Now that we have secured the land, we need to focus seriously on the floor plan.
Since I have been reading here for a while and am often amazed by the great and helpful ideas from other forum members, I thought it might be useful to share our floor plan draft here for discussion. So please feel free to share your comments – many thanks in advance!
A few explanations about the sketches:
- The development plan is oriented to true north; on the floor plans, the top of the plan is approximately northwest.
- Since we already know which builder we will use, the wall thicknesses correspond to their specifications.
- The window locations are still completely open, so they are barely drawn in on the upper floor.
- Our existing furniture in the living and dining rooms is accurately scaled and included.
- The furniture in the kitchen and bathroom are just placeholders so far – the “cabinet” in the bathroom is ideally meant to house the washing machine and dryer later.
- The terrace, driveway, etc., are currently placeholders as well. In particular, we have not yet checked if everything complies with the site coverage ratio.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 472 sqm (16x29.5 m) (170 x 97 feet)
Slope none
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary building envelope 10x20 m (33 x 66 feet)
Edge development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys max. 2 full storeys
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height / limits 9.80 m (32 feet)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type single-family house with gable roof without eaves
Basement, storeys 2 full storeys, no basement
Number of residents, age 2 adults (mid-30s), currently 1 child (1.5 years) + second child expected
Room requirements ground floor / upper floor Ground floor: kitchen/dining/living, utility/technical room, office/guest room, WC; Upper floor: master bedroom/dressing/bathroom, 2 children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
Office: family use or home office? occasional home office + guest sleeping option
Number of overnight guests per year 10–15
Open or closed layout preferably open
Conservative or modern building style
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes and yes (if space allows)
Number of dining seats 6–10
Fireplace yes
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport carport
Utility garden, greenhouse no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning by: DIY based on various floor plans found online (including a sketch kaho674 posted in another thread here)
What do you particularly like? Why? Area between hallway and kitchen
What do you dislike? Why? Entrance area/hallway; living area possibly too small?
Price estimate from architect/planner: none yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 400,000 (house without exterior works and additional construction costs)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: children’s bathroom on upper floor, large master bathroom with space for sauna
Why did the design turn out as it is now? We wanted 2 children’s bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the upper floor; the rest of the rooms then arranged themselves naturally




After reading quietly for some time, things are now getting serious for us. We recently purchased a plot of land and are ready to start building our own home.
We had been interested in this plot for a while and have already spent some time trying to find a floor plan that “fits.” We picked up a few ideas here in the forum. Now that we have secured the land, we need to focus seriously on the floor plan.
Since I have been reading here for a while and am often amazed by the great and helpful ideas from other forum members, I thought it might be useful to share our floor plan draft here for discussion. So please feel free to share your comments – many thanks in advance!
A few explanations about the sketches:
- The development plan is oriented to true north; on the floor plans, the top of the plan is approximately northwest.
- Since we already know which builder we will use, the wall thicknesses correspond to their specifications.
- The window locations are still completely open, so they are barely drawn in on the upper floor.
- Our existing furniture in the living and dining rooms is accurately scaled and included.
- The furniture in the kitchen and bathroom are just placeholders so far – the “cabinet” in the bathroom is ideally meant to house the washing machine and dryer later.
- The terrace, driveway, etc., are currently placeholders as well. In particular, we have not yet checked if everything complies with the site coverage ratio.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 472 sqm (16x29.5 m) (170 x 97 feet)
Slope none
Site coverage ratio 0.4
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary building envelope 10x20 m (33 x 66 feet)
Edge development no
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys max. 2 full storeys
Roof type
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height / limits 9.80 m (32 feet)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type single-family house with gable roof without eaves
Basement, storeys 2 full storeys, no basement
Number of residents, age 2 adults (mid-30s), currently 1 child (1.5 years) + second child expected
Room requirements ground floor / upper floor Ground floor: kitchen/dining/living, utility/technical room, office/guest room, WC; Upper floor: master bedroom/dressing/bathroom, 2 children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
Office: family use or home office? occasional home office + guest sleeping option
Number of overnight guests per year 10–15
Open or closed layout preferably open
Conservative or modern building style
Open kitchen, kitchen island yes and yes (if space allows)
Number of dining seats 6–10
Fireplace yes
Music / stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport carport
Utility garden, greenhouse no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planning by: DIY based on various floor plans found online (including a sketch kaho674 posted in another thread here)
What do you particularly like? Why? Area between hallway and kitchen
What do you dislike? Why? Entrance area/hallway; living area possibly too small?
Price estimate from architect/planner: none yet
Personal price limit for house, including equipment: 400,000 (house without exterior works and additional construction costs)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- can you do without:
- cannot do without: children’s bathroom on upper floor, large master bathroom with space for sauna
Why did the design turn out as it is now? We wanted 2 children’s bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the upper floor; the rest of the rooms then arranged themselves naturally
I don’t see the bay window continued on the upper floor or any 2m (6.6 ft) lines; what do the darker wall sections represent?
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The "porch" exists only on the ground floor to make the entrance area somewhat more spacious. The upper floor is intended to be a full story with a ceiling height of 2.5m (8 feet 2 inches), so there is no 2m (6 feet 6 inches) line.
The differently colored wall sections have no significance (the software I used to create the sketches only displays measurements when walls are selected, which appear blue in the screenshots).
The differently colored wall sections have no significance (the software I used to create the sketches only displays measurements when walls are selected, which appear blue in the screenshots).
Phinitho schrieb:
The "porch extension" exists only on the ground floor to make the entrance area a bit more spacious. In your drawings, it doesn’t have a roof and is quite expensive anyway; it’s better to keep it simple. The square meters cost only a fraction when spread out.
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Just some initial thoughts off the top of my head:
- The living room could be cozy, but is that really the furniture you want? Does the person sitting in the armchair not like watching TV?
- The kitchen seems too far from the terrace for my taste, but some people prefer it that way. You just need to know if that suits you, and in your case, maybe take a samba course first to get used to how much you’ll have to move around. If you forget the salt, you’ll have to zigzag quite a bit around the dining table to get to the kitchen. If in doubt, consider extending the terrace around the corner and placing a balcony or patio door in the kitchen.
- I think there is a lack of storage space. Is there an attic?
- The bed is positioned like that? Not serious, right?
- I don’t like the bathroom layout. Without the entrance and the sauna, the bathroom shrinks by half. And if you value having a sauna enough to include one, I wouldn’t want to place the washing machine there. To me, that’s more of a compromise you can understand in an apartment building, but I wouldn’t plan a single-family house like that.
- Does the children’s bathroom have a toilet?
Overall, I don’t think it’s bad for a first draft. Still, I would redo the upper floor and maybe try to include a utility room.
- The living room could be cozy, but is that really the furniture you want? Does the person sitting in the armchair not like watching TV?
- The kitchen seems too far from the terrace for my taste, but some people prefer it that way. You just need to know if that suits you, and in your case, maybe take a samba course first to get used to how much you’ll have to move around. If you forget the salt, you’ll have to zigzag quite a bit around the dining table to get to the kitchen. If in doubt, consider extending the terrace around the corner and placing a balcony or patio door in the kitchen.
- I think there is a lack of storage space. Is there an attic?
- The bed is positioned like that? Not serious, right?
- I don’t like the bathroom layout. Without the entrance and the sauna, the bathroom shrinks by half. And if you value having a sauna enough to include one, I wouldn’t want to place the washing machine there. To me, that’s more of a compromise you can understand in an apartment building, but I wouldn’t plan a single-family house like that.
- Does the children’s bathroom have a toilet?
Overall, I don’t think it’s bad for a first draft. Still, I would redo the upper floor and maybe try to include a utility room.
Phinitho schrieb:
We wanted 2 children's bedrooms and 2 bathrooms on the upper floor, and the other rooms then distributed themselves naturally.Actually, this is an approach I frequently recommend—planning from the top down—but the initial assumptions should also be solid:face26 schrieb:
- Does the children's bathroom include a toilet?... and the sauna is more like a wide broom closet (?)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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