ᐅ Curved plot, single-family house 50 m², slope site, garage optimization
Created on: 10 Feb 2020 20:38
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Tobbster77
Tobbster7710 Feb 2020 20:38Hello dear forum members,
as future homeowners, we kindly ask for your support in planning our house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size -> 597 m² (6425 ft²)
Slope -> yes (approximate gradient: 3.7 meters (12 ft) at the long end / 2.9 meters (9.5 ft) at the short end) according to attachment
(after 8 meters (26 ft) – possible house start – approx. 80 cm (31 inches) / after 17 meters (56 ft) approx. 1.8 meters (5.9 ft))
Site coverage ratio -> see attachment
Floor area ratio -> see attachment
Building window, building line and boundary -> see attachment
Edge development -> see attachment
Number of parking spaces -> 2
Parking space/garage -> can be planned outside the building window
Number of storeys -> 1.5
Roof type -> gable roof
Style -> classic
Roof pitch 38 to 52 degrees
Orientation -> garden facing south / west
Maximum height / limits -> 8 meters (26 ft) ridge height
Knee wall height -> 1 meter (3.3 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type -> single-family house in timber frame construction with a gable roof (40 degrees) and bay window / corner bay or projecting corner bay with flat roof
Basement, floors -> yes (utility basement / habitable basement still undecided. We hope for input)
Number of residents, age -> 3 to 4 people – young family
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor -> house with approx. 150/160 m² (1615 / 1720 ft²) usable floor area (approx. 80 m² (860 ft²) living space on ground floor / 50–60 m² (540–650 ft²) living space on upper floor depending on knee wall height)
Office: family use or home office? -> rarely or never used as home office / possibly later converted into a bedroom
Guest stays per year -> few, so no classic guest room planned
Open or closed architecture -> open architecture
Conservative or modern construction -> conservative with one or two style elements (bay window / corner bay / conservatory) desired
Open kitchen, kitchen island -> open kitchen
Number of dining seats -> 4-6
Fireplace -> no
Music / stereo wall -> undecided
Balcony, roof terrace -> rather no
Garage, carport -> garage and carport (challenge here: we don’t know how best to position these so the house can be placed as far forward as possible to maximize garden area).
Utility garden, greenhouse -> utility garden
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House type: KfW 40 Plus
House design
Who prepared the plan:
- Planner of a construction company -> building company
- Architect -> we now want to commission one separately because we are not making progress
- Do-it-yourself -> the floor plan basically already reflects our wishes and ideas and was created based on our input
Estimated price according to architect/planner: approx. 420,000 €
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 460,000 €
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions could you do without?
- can do without: double garage / combined parking space
- cannot do without: everything else
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example:
As is often the case, homeowners usually start from scratch. We initially visited prefabricated house parks and then looked into offers from various providers. Since there was basic agreement with some house types, we requested quotes. The floor plan itself was developed based on model house visits and our ideas and wishes. We can basically imagine living like this. But of course, there are other opinions and room for optimization. Since the planning, to quote common expressions, has been done or would be done by “draftsmen,” and we simply have not yet received an ideal answer to our questions, we are now looking for your advice.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we position the garage and carport so that the house, approximately 10 meters (33 ft) wide and with the desired floor plan, can be placed as far forward toward the street as possible? Our goal is to maximize the garden space at the back. Or are we stuck on the garage, or should the house look different to allow moving it forward?
We have already asked the municipality whether it is possible to rotate the garage and place the driveway differently (see attachment). According to their preliminary check, there are currently no objections. However, I am somewhat skeptical (keyword: turning radius). It is a cul-de-sac with a 30 km/h (20 mph) speed limit.
Furthermore, we are still considering whether it makes sense, given the sloping site, to build a habitable basement or invest capital in it. Renting it out is not planned, but it may be used for the children later or as a recreational basement.
We would be very grateful for suggestions and tips.
as future homeowners, we kindly ask for your support in planning our house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size -> 597 m² (6425 ft²)
Slope -> yes (approximate gradient: 3.7 meters (12 ft) at the long end / 2.9 meters (9.5 ft) at the short end) according to attachment
(after 8 meters (26 ft) – possible house start – approx. 80 cm (31 inches) / after 17 meters (56 ft) approx. 1.8 meters (5.9 ft))
Site coverage ratio -> see attachment
Floor area ratio -> see attachment
Building window, building line and boundary -> see attachment
Edge development -> see attachment
Number of parking spaces -> 2
Parking space/garage -> can be planned outside the building window
Number of storeys -> 1.5
Roof type -> gable roof
Style -> classic
Roof pitch 38 to 52 degrees
Orientation -> garden facing south / west
Maximum height / limits -> 8 meters (26 ft) ridge height
Knee wall height -> 1 meter (3.3 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type -> single-family house in timber frame construction with a gable roof (40 degrees) and bay window / corner bay or projecting corner bay with flat roof
Basement, floors -> yes (utility basement / habitable basement still undecided. We hope for input)
Number of residents, age -> 3 to 4 people – young family
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor -> house with approx. 150/160 m² (1615 / 1720 ft²) usable floor area (approx. 80 m² (860 ft²) living space on ground floor / 50–60 m² (540–650 ft²) living space on upper floor depending on knee wall height)
Office: family use or home office? -> rarely or never used as home office / possibly later converted into a bedroom
Guest stays per year -> few, so no classic guest room planned
Open or closed architecture -> open architecture
Conservative or modern construction -> conservative with one or two style elements (bay window / corner bay / conservatory) desired
Open kitchen, kitchen island -> open kitchen
Number of dining seats -> 4-6
Fireplace -> no
Music / stereo wall -> undecided
Balcony, roof terrace -> rather no
Garage, carport -> garage and carport (challenge here: we don’t know how best to position these so the house can be placed as far forward as possible to maximize garden area).
Utility garden, greenhouse -> utility garden
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House type: KfW 40 Plus
House design
Who prepared the plan:
- Planner of a construction company -> building company
- Architect -> we now want to commission one separately because we are not making progress
- Do-it-yourself -> the floor plan basically already reflects our wishes and ideas and was created based on our input
Estimated price according to architect/planner: approx. 420,000 €
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 460,000 €
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions could you do without?
- can do without: double garage / combined parking space
- cannot do without: everything else
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example:
As is often the case, homeowners usually start from scratch. We initially visited prefabricated house parks and then looked into offers from various providers. Since there was basic agreement with some house types, we requested quotes. The floor plan itself was developed based on model house visits and our ideas and wishes. We can basically imagine living like this. But of course, there are other opinions and room for optimization. Since the planning, to quote common expressions, has been done or would be done by “draftsmen,” and we simply have not yet received an ideal answer to our questions, we are now looking for your advice.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can we position the garage and carport so that the house, approximately 10 meters (33 ft) wide and with the desired floor plan, can be placed as far forward toward the street as possible? Our goal is to maximize the garden space at the back. Or are we stuck on the garage, or should the house look different to allow moving it forward?
We have already asked the municipality whether it is possible to rotate the garage and place the driveway differently (see attachment). According to their preliminary check, there are currently no objections. However, I am somewhat skeptical (keyword: turning radius). It is a cul-de-sac with a 30 km/h (20 mph) speed limit.
Furthermore, we are still considering whether it makes sense, given the sloping site, to build a habitable basement or invest capital in it. Renting it out is not planned, but it may be used for the children later or as a recreational basement.
We would be very grateful for suggestions and tips.
Hello,
the kitchen will be very small, meaning there will be little counter space. It would need to be extended into the living area. The wall at the bottom of the plan, 343cm (135 inches), is long enough for 2 tall cabinets plus a corner.
You have to walk around the island every time to get to the refrigerator. A better solution would be to have access from the hallway or to position the island against the exterior wall. Even then, the kitchen would still be too small.
the kitchen will be very small, meaning there will be little counter space. It would need to be extended into the living area. The wall at the bottom of the plan, 343cm (135 inches), is long enough for 2 tall cabinets plus a corner.
You have to walk around the island every time to get to the refrigerator. A better solution would be to have access from the hallway or to position the island against the exterior wall. Even then, the kitchen would still be too small.
Which direction does the slope face? Does it go uphill from the driveway?
If after 8 meters over a width of 9 meters (approximate house width) there is still a 1.80-meter (5 ft 11 in) slope remaining, I would suggest building a basement level with living spaces instead of a cellar. You might consider omitting the second upper floor or go for a staggered shed roof design and make the second upper floor a half story.
That would be a matter for an experienced architect.
Regarding the current design: where is the cloakroom supposed to go?
There are long distances to the storage room (behind the kitchen and in the basement) and also to the dressing room. It would be better to avoid surrounding these areas with walls by creating direct access from the hallway or placing the entrances alongside the interior walls.
The 3.70 meters (12 ft 2 in) in the living room are insufficient for a sofa of that size or layout.
The kitchen size is also close to the minimum for four people.
If after 8 meters over a width of 9 meters (approximate house width) there is still a 1.80-meter (5 ft 11 in) slope remaining, I would suggest building a basement level with living spaces instead of a cellar. You might consider omitting the second upper floor or go for a staggered shed roof design and make the second upper floor a half story.
That would be a matter for an experienced architect.
Regarding the current design: where is the cloakroom supposed to go?
There are long distances to the storage room (behind the kitchen and in the basement) and also to the dressing room. It would be better to avoid surrounding these areas with walls by creating direct access from the hallway or placing the entrances alongside the interior walls.
The 3.70 meters (12 ft 2 in) in the living room are insufficient for a sofa of that size or layout.
The kitchen size is also close to the minimum for four people.
Is the main entrance facing northeast?
I’m not happy with the size and natural light in the children’s rooms. One child’s room has a small southeast window, the other a small northwest window. The latter will rarely get any direct sunlight. I would add either dormer windows or roof windows to improve lighting from two sides. Also, place children’s bedroom 1 on the southeast side for more daylight. Additionally, allow the children 1–2 m² (11–22 sq ft) more space by taking some from the “master sleeping area.”
The huge sofa doesn’t fit— as Yvonne mentioned— in the middle of the living room. If neither the room size nor the sofa size can be changed, I would place the sofa directly against a wall (or even two walls) to leave a good walkway on at least one side.
I’m not happy with the size and natural light in the children’s rooms. One child’s room has a small southeast window, the other a small northwest window. The latter will rarely get any direct sunlight. I would add either dormer windows or roof windows to improve lighting from two sides. Also, place children’s bedroom 1 on the southeast side for more daylight. Additionally, allow the children 1–2 m² (11–22 sq ft) more space by taking some from the “master sleeping area.”
The huge sofa doesn’t fit— as Yvonne mentioned— in the middle of the living room. If neither the room size nor the sofa size can be changed, I would place the sofa directly against a wall (or even two walls) to leave a good walkway on at least one side.
Tobbster77 schrieb:
We have already asked the local authorities if it would be possible to rotate the garage and reposition the driveway (see attachment). According to their preliminary visual inspection, there are currently no objections. However, I am a bit skeptical myself (keyword: turning radius). It is a dead-end street with a 30 km/h (18.6 mph) speed limit.Are you also allowed to move your house forward?
In that case, I would do it that way and design the driveway so that you can drive straight onto the garage. Otherwise, you would probably have problems with the cars’ turning radius. There are only three other houses behind your driveway in the dead-end street, so there is very little traffic. As long as there are no visual obstructions, I see no problem with this, provided you can turn your necks enough to check for traffic coming from both directions.
Tobbster77 schrieb:
Parking space/garage -> can be planned outside the building envelopeI don’t currently see any indication of this possibility in the plan.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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