ᐅ Ground floor and basement with bedrooms and bathroom in the basement – what do you think of this layout?
Created on: 27 Jan 2020 22:02
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Sternchen31
Hello everyone,
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
I would make sure that the children’s room gets plenty of natural light. In the middle of the basement level, there is only a side window. How is the slope positioned there, and how large can the window be?
Possibly consider swapping it with the parents’ area. The child uses the room for homework and needs good lighting, whereas the parents mainly use their room for sleeping. Windows on two sides, even if one faces north, create a brighter and more pleasant living atmosphere. Due to the slope, larger windows may also be possible on the northeast corner.
Possibly consider swapping it with the parents’ area. The child uses the room for homework and needs good lighting, whereas the parents mainly use their room for sleeping. Windows on two sides, even if one faces north, create a brighter and more pleasant living atmosphere. Due to the slope, larger windows may also be possible on the northeast corner.
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Place the bedrooms downstairs because the rooms stay nicely cooler during summer.The entire house is within a single thermal envelope, so there won’t be significant temperature differences between the upper and lower floors, only possibly between the north and south sides.S
Sternchen3129 Jan 2020 23:00haydee schrieb:
Do you want a total of 140 sq meters (1507 sq ft) or 140 sq meters (1507 sq ft) plus the basement?
Okay, if the garden and play area are in front of the house, that works. Usually, they are behind the house. That wasn’t clear from your information.
Could you add some measurements to the floor plan? Hello, we want a total living area of 140 sq meters (1507 sq ft), plus the basement, utility room, and technical room. Yes, the main garden/play area will be in front of or to the right side of the house.
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Sternchen3129 Jan 2020 23:09ypg schrieb:
No. Big mistake! The planners from the building company are not the best. If you give them anything, they just copy it exactly as is, including all planning errors.
They need to be challenged. Write down what you need and just wait. Then we can discuss it here.
Who advised you to do what?
And what exactly do you want? Today's appointment went exactly as you imagined. He didn’t want to see the plans at all but asked what was important to us and then said, "Let me do some planning, I already have an idea in mind." In about three weeks, we will get a design with a 3D version of the house and then we can tell him if we like it or what we want changed. I will definitely share that here.
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Hello, we want a total living area of 140 sqm (1507 sq ft) excluding the basement, utility room, and technical room. Yes, the main garden/play area will be in front of or to the right side of the house. In that case, placing the living area upstairs fits well. Living spaces belong next to the garden.
The plan is much too large. You have well over 140 sqm (1507 sq ft), significantly more.
We have an 11 x 11 m (36 x 36 ft) two-story house like yours and end up with 190 sqm (2045 sq ft) of living and usable space.
Take a look at urban villas of this size. They are usually 9.5 x 9.5 m (31 x 31 ft).
It may be necessary to make your house somewhat larger due to the slope, since not all sides have windows.
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Sternchen3129 Jan 2020 23:13Würfel* schrieb:
Your floor plans show well over 200 sq meters (over 2,150 sq ft) of living space. There are already 140 sq meters (about 1,500 sq ft) on the ground floor plus 115 sq meters (around 1,240 sq ft) of living/utility space in the basement. Such a large house is hardly feasible with the budget. Are you aware that your information conflicts with the floor plans? Hello,
yes, we know it turned out a bit too large. I had mentioned that it is just about the room layout for now. We had our meeting today and shared our wishes, and he will now start planning and send us proposals within the next three weeks, including a 3D design. Then we can let him know what we don’t like and so on. We are really curious to see what he comes up with based on the information.
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