ᐅ Ground floor and basement with bedrooms and bathroom in the basement – what do you think of this layout?
Created on: 27 Jan 2020 22:02
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Sternchen31
Hello everyone,
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
We have our first appointment with the architect on Wednesday evening. In the meantime, we have started experimenting with our ideas using Sweet Home 3D and want to bring these to the meeting on Wednesday. What do you think about the room layout and design? The living area is planned to be around 140-150 sqm (1507-1615 sq ft). The listed square meters on the floor plans include both exterior and interior walls according to the program. If I have calculated correctly and subtract the exterior walls and about 15% of the foundation size for the interior walls, you end up with roughly 150 sqm (1615 sq ft) of net living space. The foundation here measures 11 x 13 meters (36 x 43 feet). For now, we are mainly focused on the room arrangement and design. We are building on a slope, which means we will drive straight into the garage, and the property slopes downward along with the house.
Between the vestibule and the pantry, as well as between the vestibule and the hallway, we are considering using internal sliding doors.
We also wanted to ask who has placed their main bathroom with toilet, shower, and bathtub in the basement? Because of the sloped site, wastewater from the toilet, shower, and bathtub would have to be pumped back up to street level. There would be a height difference of about 2.5 meters (8 feet) to overcome. We are wondering if this is possible with a pumping system and, importantly, what the costs might be.
Background: We are building on a slope so that half of the basement can be fully used as living space because it is partially above ground. Since we always wanted a bungalow but need a basement, the option of a ground floor with a livable basement area is the best solution for us. We could also build two full floors on the property, but with a basement (half of which is above ground at the rear), it would look too bulky. The house is intended for two adults and one child, and we are planning to install a photovoltaic system, an air-to-water heat pump, and underfloor heating. The house will be built to KfW 55 standards. The slope means there is a height difference of 3.4 meters (11 feet) over a property length of 32 meters (105 feet).
We are very early in the planning process and are using the software for the first time, so please don’t be too harsh if something seems completely unreasonable or confusing.
Thank you in advance for your ideas and suggestions!!!
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Sternchen3128 Jan 2020 00:29ypg schrieb:
You can tell that to the architect.
Or do you really think the client wants the kitchen, dining, and living room arranged in an L-shape like that? In recent weeks, we have visited several construction companies and spoken with three architects. We described our wishes and ideas very precisely and also tried to make them clearer using photos. However, so far, nothing has really been very good. That’s why we thought about putting our ideas from our minds onto paper. As laypeople, we obviously can’t take into account structural engineering, load-bearing walls, or anything else that comes with it. Our goal is simply to provide a better description during discussions.
What exactly is negative about the kitchen, dining, and living room arranged in an L-shape?
We placed the kitchen and dining room facing the street; the terrace on the right side is the sun terrace, and then comes the living room. The living room is larger so that our son has enough space to play and be active.
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Sternchen3128 Jan 2020 00:35Attached is the site plan – our plot is Plot 2.
The marked garage is located to the northwest.
Sorry that the image quality is poor; I couldn’t get a better one quickly.
The marked garage is located to the northwest.
Sorry that the image quality is poor; I couldn’t get a better one quickly.
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Attached is the site plan – our plot is Plot 2.
The drawn garage is located to the northwest.
Sorry that the image is so poor, I couldn't do better on short notice. But if the drawn lines represent the building boundaries, then you shouldn’t place the garage directly in front of or beside the house, but only offset diagonally along the northwestern property boundary?
Is the orange area the road?
And which direction does the slope descend?
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Sternchen3128 Jan 2020 00:44ltenzer schrieb:
Kitchen is far too small. In the pantry, the lettuce leaves would have to be pinned to the wall just to have space to stand inside. Meanwhile, there’s enough room for two full bowling lanes between the dining table and the sofa, and you could easily play mini golf in the hallway.
Overall proportions are very unbalanced. The cabinets look much too small on the plan. For wardrobes, it’s reasonable to plan for a depth of 60cm (24 inches) to be able to hang several jackets side by side.
Connect the kitchen, dining, and living area to the garden on the lower ground floor, and have the bedrooms upstairs.
Families often go out to the garden together to eat, play, etc.
And the kitchen needs to be close to the dining area.
Is the driveway to the garage coming from the northwest, meaning from the left side on the plan?Hello,
Yes, the driveway to the garage is from the northwest, so on the left side of the house.
Because the plot slopes, we were advised to place the living and dining areas on the ground floor so you can enter the house directly from the garage on the same level. The sun terrace is located upstairs near the street on the right side of the house. We were also advised to put the bedrooms in the basement since those rooms would stay much cooler, and having the washing machine and dryer on the same level as the bedrooms would be convenient. Additionally, we were recommended to create a "shaded terrace" in the lower part of the plot to allow for shaded areas in summer and to locate the playground mainly in partial shade.
The living and dining area is therefore quite large because we also need a play area for our little whirlwind. We think the hallway is still quite big, and the wardrobes shown all have a depth of 60cm (24 inches). The kitchen measures 4.5 meters (15 feet) in length and 3 meters (10 feet) in depth, and the pantry is 1.5 meters (5 feet) deep and 3.5 meters (12 feet) long. These are just our rough sketches—the architect’s final plans will show how it really turns out.
Sternchen31 schrieb:
Hello,
The driveway to the garage is from the northwest side, so on the left side of the house.
Because the property slopes downhill, we were advised to place the living and dining areas on the ground floor so that you can enter the house directly from the garage without steps. The sunny terrace is located on the upper side by the street, on the right side of the house. We were also advised to put the bedrooms in the basement, as those rooms would then be significantly cooler, and to have the washer and dryer on the same level as the bedrooms. We also received the suggestion to create a "shade terrace" on the lower part of the property to provide shaded areas in summer and to locate the playground mostly in semi-shade.
The living and dining area turned out quite large because we also need a play area for our little whirlwind. We also feel the hallway is still quite spacious. The built-in wardrobes shown all have a depth of 60cm (24 inches). The kitchen is 4.5 meters (15 feet) long and 3 meters (10 feet) deep, and the pantry is 1.5 meters (5 feet) deep and 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) long. These are only our rough sketches; what the architect will come up with remains to be seen. If you mainly use the terrace and garden in front of and beside the house and access them from the ground floor, I would also place the living spaces there. The entrance area, vestibule, and pantry could then be positioned on the north side.
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Sternchen3128 Jan 2020 00:50ltenzer schrieb:
But if the marked lines are the building boundaries, then you are not allowed to place the garage directly in front of or next to the house, but only diagonally offset along the northwest property line?
Is the orange area the street?
And which way does the slope run? Yes, the marked lines are the building boundaries. According to the development plan, garages are allowed directly on the property line. Boundary construction is permitted for garages and outbuildings (the maximum wall height is 3.00 m (10 feet) above the finished surface of the access road, directly at the boundary between the plots). Yes, the orange marking represents the street. The garage starts 5 meters (16 feet) inside the property; the house may be built parallel to the garage—it does not have to be set back.
The land slopes downward to the east from the street, meaning the street is at the highest point.
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