ᐅ Building an End-Terrace House as a Self-Managed Project with a General Contractor
Created on: 27 May 2019 10:48
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goalkeeper
Hello everyone,
some of you might have already followed one of my threads about us having to or being allowed to build our end-terrace house on our own responsibility – depending on how you look at it. This means that we are buying an end-terrace plot (215 sqm (2315 sq ft)) in a new development area in the Rhein-Neckar district and will be building on it ourselves – but in coordination with our two terrace neighbors.
The municipality, which sold the plots through a local resident model, ideally wanted applicants to apply as a complete housing group with several families and then build accordingly with a general contractor, construction manager, or architect. Of course, that didn’t really work out, so now there are only individual applicants and also homeowners.
After we were awarded the plot, the addresses of the other terrace neighbors were shared to discuss certain matters, such as roof style, whether or not to have a basement, etc. It was immediately clear that everyone preferred to do their own thing. However, we were still able to agree that the housing group will have a gable roof with a pitch of 35 to 40 degrees (within this 5-degree range).
As the end house, we will build without a basement, while the middle house and the other end house will have basements. This obviously presents a challenge as we would have to make a deep foundation or simply skip it, and the middle house would have to support us, as we will start construction first. The current agreement with the middle house is that we will build a deeper foundation at his expense, as supporting our house later on would be considerably more expensive for him.
We are currently close to signing with the construction manager, the notarization appointment for the plot is at the end of June, and we hope to start construction in the fall of this year. Meanwhile, several other freely planned housing groups are being built around us, which might get in the way with their cranes.
I will document the progress here from time to time – such a self-planned terraced house doesn’t come along very often.
some of you might have already followed one of my threads about us having to or being allowed to build our end-terrace house on our own responsibility – depending on how you look at it. This means that we are buying an end-terrace plot (215 sqm (2315 sq ft)) in a new development area in the Rhein-Neckar district and will be building on it ourselves – but in coordination with our two terrace neighbors.
The municipality, which sold the plots through a local resident model, ideally wanted applicants to apply as a complete housing group with several families and then build accordingly with a general contractor, construction manager, or architect. Of course, that didn’t really work out, so now there are only individual applicants and also homeowners.
After we were awarded the plot, the addresses of the other terrace neighbors were shared to discuss certain matters, such as roof style, whether or not to have a basement, etc. It was immediately clear that everyone preferred to do their own thing. However, we were still able to agree that the housing group will have a gable roof with a pitch of 35 to 40 degrees (within this 5-degree range).
As the end house, we will build without a basement, while the middle house and the other end house will have basements. This obviously presents a challenge as we would have to make a deep foundation or simply skip it, and the middle house would have to support us, as we will start construction first. The current agreement with the middle house is that we will build a deeper foundation at his expense, as supporting our house later on would be considerably more expensive for him.
We are currently close to signing with the construction manager, the notarization appointment for the plot is at the end of June, and we hope to start construction in the fall of this year. Meanwhile, several other freely planned housing groups are being built around us, which might get in the way with their cranes.
I will document the progress here from time to time – such a self-planned terraced house doesn’t come along very often.
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goalkeeper15 Jan 2020 22:42hanse987 schrieb:
I would still install the components quite high up, as it allows for more flexibility during mobilization.They will be installed at about 2.30 m (7 ft 7 in) height.
Golfi90 schrieb:
An outlet costs us around 19€...
It’s amazing how much that can vary.We are budgeting around 3,000 € for electrical work, which only includes a few outlets, some wall fixtures, and an additional connection for a future garden shed.
hanse987 schrieb:
I hope those are double sockets that can be connected with two cables for that price.Unfortunately not.
goalkeeper schrieb:
Unfortunately not.Are the sockets then gold-plated?
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goalkeeper16 Jan 2020 00:30hanse987 schrieb:
Are the boxes then gold-plated?With diamonds attached.
I really hated that during our build as well. You want something and basically HAVE to pay these outrageous prices because it’s difficult to find another company at that point. €130 (about $140) for a can of simplex seems quite excessive to me.
Try asking if low-voltage wiring (EL) is an option. It’s not rocket science, and in the end, you’d probably pay just a fraction of that. Maybe you can also ask the electricians on site after work if they could hook you up with 4-5 cans.
Try asking if low-voltage wiring (EL) is an option. It’s not rocket science, and in the end, you’d probably pay just a fraction of that. Maybe you can also ask the electricians on site after work if they could hook you up with 4-5 cans.
Golfi90 schrieb:
One electrical outlet costs us 19€...Here: 60 euros each regardless of whether it’s a single, double, or triple combination socket... with 26 outlets for the entire house in the standard setup plus 7 circuit breakers – each additional circuit breaker around 70 euros.LAN duplex costs 220 euros. I had 9 empty conduit pipes installed accordingly, which were relatively affordable at about 60 euros each. The rest is included in the electrical installation.
It’s pretty frustrating how much they charge for a simple power outlet, especially when you know the prices electricians pay for them wholesale.
I’m lucky that my father works in wholesale and can get them at a good price. I once asked him how much a standard basic power outlet with everything included costs. For the electrician, it’s about €5 net.
I’m lucky that my father works in wholesale and can get them at a good price. I once asked him how much a standard basic power outlet with everything included costs. For the electrician, it’s about €5 net.
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