ᐅ Build a Single-Family Home to KfW55 or Efficiency House 70 Standards?
Created on: 27 Dec 2019 20:24
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Sternchen31
Hello everyone,
we hope you can help us a bit. We have purchased a plot of land, the notarization appointment has already taken place, and now we are waiting for the payment deadline. Meanwhile, we are already in contact with several solid construction companies that we have shortlisted and have received two offers so far; the third meeting was today.
So far, it was clear to us that we would build a KfW 55 single-family house (about 125 m² (1350 sq ft) living space on the ground floor and first floor) with a full basement (30 m² (320 sq ft) basement possibly used as living space with underfloor heating), a photovoltaic system, heat pump, and underfloor heating with individual room control.
Today, for the first time, we were asked why we actually want to build to KfW 55 standards. An efficiency house 70 would be around €20,000 - 30,000 cheaper, plus approximately €15,000 for the photovoltaic system. According to this, it would take about 15–20 years for the additional costs of building to KfW 55 with a photovoltaic system to be recovered through energy savings. The subsidies, except for the €5,000 from KfW, are no longer as favorable as they used to be and may not be cost-effective.
We have already received two offers from construction companies where this question about not building to KfW 70 did not come up at all.
We are now a bit confused and would like to exchange some thoughts on this.
Many thanks in advance.
we hope you can help us a bit. We have purchased a plot of land, the notarization appointment has already taken place, and now we are waiting for the payment deadline. Meanwhile, we are already in contact with several solid construction companies that we have shortlisted and have received two offers so far; the third meeting was today.
So far, it was clear to us that we would build a KfW 55 single-family house (about 125 m² (1350 sq ft) living space on the ground floor and first floor) with a full basement (30 m² (320 sq ft) basement possibly used as living space with underfloor heating), a photovoltaic system, heat pump, and underfloor heating with individual room control.
Today, for the first time, we were asked why we actually want to build to KfW 55 standards. An efficiency house 70 would be around €20,000 - 30,000 cheaper, plus approximately €15,000 for the photovoltaic system. According to this, it would take about 15–20 years for the additional costs of building to KfW 55 with a photovoltaic system to be recovered through energy savings. The subsidies, except for the €5,000 from KfW, are no longer as favorable as they used to be and may not be cost-effective.
We have already received two offers from construction companies where this question about not building to KfW 70 did not come up at all.
We are now a bit confused and would like to exchange some thoughts on this.
Many thanks in advance.
hampshire schrieb:
Don't buy anything you don't need or want just because it is subsidized. But that is exactly the purpose of government subsidies (i.e., TAX money).
Maximum efficiency is achieved when someone buys something that would have had no chance under normal circumstances.
hegi___ schrieb:
Out of 10 general contractors asked, all 10 built with Ytong. And the only reason is the cost advantage. For an architect, this plays a minor role.For us, it's only Poroton plus ETICS (external thermal insulation composite system)...hegi___ schrieb:
I have to admit, everything is just cheaper in our area.Wow, it seems like every region wants to be the cheapest nowadays.H
hampshire30 Dec 2019 00:16guckuck2 schrieb:
That is exactly the purpose of government subsidies (=TAX money).
Maximum efficiency is achieved when someone buys something that would have had no chance under normal valuation.What am I doing wrong? Subsidies are generally useful to help people afford homes. Not every aid program is suitable for everyone. It is not sensible to stretch yourself or pursue an aspect that you DO NOT NEED or DO NOT WANT just to get a few extra dollars. Therefore, it is worthwhile to look for subsidies that support you in realizing your own wishes and ideas. Your wishes and ideas should be the guide, not the amount of subsidy. This approach helps keep the actual costs under control. After all, not all subsidies cover 100% of the costs.
hampshire schrieb:
What am I doing wrong right now?B
boxandroof30 Dec 2019 00:59hampshire schrieb:
What am I doing wrong here?I don’t see any contradiction. Subsidies are meant to encourage. They can be useful for individuals but can also lead to irrational behavior.The example with the piles applies if one would already act economically irrationally without subsidies.
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Matthew0330 Dec 2019 11:24hampshire schrieb:
What am I doing wrong?...assuming that additions from other users to your statements are contradictions or antitheses. Let go of that, and everything will be fine...