ᐅ Single-family house with a pitched roof – any suggestions for improvements?
Created on: 23 Dec 2019 14:46
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Aldo889Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and would like to introduce our project. We are still relatively at the beginning and plan to start at the end of next year. We have now received the first draft from a general contractor, with whom we will probably build.
1. Fundamentals:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1200 m² (14,580 sq ft)
Slope – slight, see preliminary site plan
Site coverage ratio – no specification
Floor area ratio – no specification
Building envelope, building line and boundary – no specification
Edge development – no specification, 5 m (16 ft) wide strip on the east side
Number of parking spaces – no specification, 2 desired
Number of floors – 1 full story (Hesse)
Roof style – no specification
Architectural style – no specification
Orientation – main orientation north-south specified, approval for east-west orientation is available
Maximum height / limits – none
Other specifications – none
Requirements from the builders
Architectural style, roof type, building type – classic gable roof, 1.5 stories
Basement, number of stories – not planned, not necessary
Number of occupants, ages – currently 2 (30, 25), planned 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
- GF: living room, kitchen, utility room, guest bathroom with shower, office
- UF: master bedroom with dressing room, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms, 1 hobby/storage/pantry room
Office: family use or home office? – home office
Overnight guests per year – negligible
Open or closed architecture – good mix, leaning towards open
Conservative or modern construction – rather conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island – yes (or “half” island)
Number of dining seats – at least 6
Fireplace – not planned
Music/sound wall – not planned
Balcony/roof terrace – not planned
Garage, carport – yes, both
Utility garden, greenhouse – later
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included – parents sleep on the east side, kitchen on the east side. Views to the east and south are completely unobstructed.
House design
Who designed the plan – planner from a construction company, based on our ideas
What do you particularly like? Why? – ground floor well realized, open entrance area, covered entrance as a solution combined with carport/garage, ample space, “south facade”
What don’t you like? Why? – upper floor not yet 100% right, children’s rooms are too different in size, gallery too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner – not yet available
Personal price limit for house, including equipment – 380k
Preferred heating technology – geothermal with underfloor heating
If you had to give up, which details/expansions
-you can give up: size of office, pantry, third room in UF (or size of that room)
-you cannot give up: bedroom with dressing room, office on ground floor, covered entrance
Why has the design ended up this way?
We told the planner our wishes (number of rooms on GF/UF, orientation of rooms). We gave no specifications about floor plans, room sizes, etc. He implemented our requirements based on that, which has mostly worked very well.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
1. Major flaws/general improvements?
2. Solution for UF to have nearly equal-sized children’s rooms?
2. Slope / Basement
How do you assess the slope situation on the plot? So far, we have not considered a basement necessary, but after the survey, we would like to check if it might make sense. Some areas would need to be filled, others excavated.
3. Files
Attached – all oriented to the north
Thanks in advance and best regards
I have been following this forum for a while and would like to introduce our project. We are still relatively at the beginning and plan to start at the end of next year. We have now received the first draft from a general contractor, with whom we will probably build.
1. Fundamentals:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – approx. 1200 m² (14,580 sq ft)
Slope – slight, see preliminary site plan
Site coverage ratio – no specification
Floor area ratio – no specification
Building envelope, building line and boundary – no specification
Edge development – no specification, 5 m (16 ft) wide strip on the east side
Number of parking spaces – no specification, 2 desired
Number of floors – 1 full story (Hesse)
Roof style – no specification
Architectural style – no specification
Orientation – main orientation north-south specified, approval for east-west orientation is available
Maximum height / limits – none
Other specifications – none
Requirements from the builders
Architectural style, roof type, building type – classic gable roof, 1.5 stories
Basement, number of stories – not planned, not necessary
Number of occupants, ages – currently 2 (30, 25), planned 2 children
Space requirements on ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF)
- GF: living room, kitchen, utility room, guest bathroom with shower, office
- UF: master bedroom with dressing room, bathroom, 2 children’s rooms, 1 hobby/storage/pantry room
Office: family use or home office? – home office
Overnight guests per year – negligible
Open or closed architecture – good mix, leaning towards open
Conservative or modern construction – rather conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island – yes (or “half” island)
Number of dining seats – at least 6
Fireplace – not planned
Music/sound wall – not planned
Balcony/roof terrace – not planned
Garage, carport – yes, both
Utility garden, greenhouse – later
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included – parents sleep on the east side, kitchen on the east side. Views to the east and south are completely unobstructed.
House design
Who designed the plan – planner from a construction company, based on our ideas
What do you particularly like? Why? – ground floor well realized, open entrance area, covered entrance as a solution combined with carport/garage, ample space, “south facade”
What don’t you like? Why? – upper floor not yet 100% right, children’s rooms are too different in size, gallery too large
Price estimate according to architect/planner – not yet available
Personal price limit for house, including equipment – 380k
Preferred heating technology – geothermal with underfloor heating
If you had to give up, which details/expansions
-you can give up: size of office, pantry, third room in UF (or size of that room)
-you cannot give up: bedroom with dressing room, office on ground floor, covered entrance
Why has the design ended up this way?
We told the planner our wishes (number of rooms on GF/UF, orientation of rooms). We gave no specifications about floor plans, room sizes, etc. He implemented our requirements based on that, which has mostly worked very well.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
1. Major flaws/general improvements?
2. Solution for UF to have nearly equal-sized children’s rooms?
2. Slope / Basement
How do you assess the slope situation on the plot? So far, we have not considered a basement necessary, but after the survey, we would like to check if it might make sense. Some areas would need to be filled, others excavated.
3. Files
Attached – all oriented to the north
Thanks in advance and best regards
Be sure to include your existing or planned furniture in the drawings.
The sofa is dollhouse-sized, while the table with extended chairs requires much more space.
Not even a freezer can fit in the pantry.
The upper floor definitely needs to be redone. It looks like there is too much space.
The sofa is dollhouse-sized, while the table with extended chairs requires much more space.
Not even a freezer can fit in the pantry.
The upper floor definitely needs to be redone. It looks like there is too much space.
- Budget underestimated.
- The entrance mudroom area extends unnecessarily far into the house.
- Staircase layout is inconvenient, as the space under the stairs cannot be used, for example, as a wardrobe area.
- Guest toilet too narrow and uncomfortable.
- Pantry not practically usable.
- Wasteful use of space instead – bay window, gallery, void area...
- Kitchen island improperly sized.
- Walk-in closet far too narrow.
These were just the points that immediately stand out at first glance.
- The entrance mudroom area extends unnecessarily far into the house.
- Staircase layout is inconvenient, as the space under the stairs cannot be used, for example, as a wardrobe area.
- Guest toilet too narrow and uncomfortable.
- Pantry not practically usable.
- Wasteful use of space instead – bay window, gallery, void area...
- Kitchen island improperly sized.
- Walk-in closet far too narrow.
These were just the points that immediately stand out at first glance.
Aldo889 schrieb:
Slope – somewhat That sounds modest. The plan shows a 5m (16 feet) height difference along the diagonal. In my opinion, modesty is inappropriate here.
Aldo889 schrieb:
For us, the idea of a basement hasn’t been necessary so far It wouldn’t be a basement anyway, but rather a lower ground floor. Even the short embankment alone can accommodate a full storey height. On top of that, there is the cross slope. This requires a lot of planning.
Aldo889 schrieb:
Here, part of the site would need to be built up, part cut away. How much do you plan to cut away? Where exactly would the site be built up? The terrain is extremely challenging and does not align with the design at all. Did the general contractor know the site before starting the design? Hopefully, they are familiar with the definition of a full storey in Hesse. If the dashed line is supposed to indicate the 2m (6.5 feet) level, I believe the upper floor qualifies as a full storey. The elevations would be needed to confirm this.
What concerns me from a drainage perspective is the slope descending towards plot 119. The latter seems to be an access path to a route running between your planting strip and the (fields) on the right side of the plan – is that a levee, a bike path on an old railway track, or something similar?
What materials are you using for construction – monolithic porous bricks for external walls, and calcium silicate bricks for internal walls?
I share Escroda’s assessment of the terrain and concerns regarding the two-story design.
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What materials are you using for construction – monolithic porous bricks for external walls, and calcium silicate bricks for internal walls?
I share Escroda’s assessment of the terrain and concerns regarding the two-story design.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I can't quite visualize the house properly on the property right now.
What didn’t bother me is the different sizes of the children’s rooms. In terms of area, they are almost identical. However, I noticed the following points:
What didn’t bother me is the different sizes of the children’s rooms. In terms of area, they are almost identical. However, I noticed the following points:
- Relatively large house but with a very small staircase planned... plus an open space above that I don’t understand the purpose of
- Huge utility room on the upper floor facing south/east, where supposedly the best view is... why not place a children’s room there?
- I would always make the master bedroom accessible through a walk-in closet
- Very large hallway on the upper floor
- The technical room and pantry are about 11 sqm (118 sq ft) combined, with almost 5 sqm (54 sq ft) of circulation space where nothing can be placed due to the passages
- Pantry depth only 115mm (4.5 inches)... not enough space for a freezer or similar because the door won’t open
- Route from the kitchen to the terrace goes around the peninsula and dining table before you reach the exit
- Kitchen has long walking distances
- What is the purpose of the bay window on the ground floor?
- Really only small sofas?
- Window position on the west side in the study/guest room... no space for a cupboard there
- From the street, no one can see the front door because it is hidden behind a privacy wall
- The door from the storage area near the garage/carport is very inconveniently placed... when planning the car, you should allow generous space on the driver’s side for getting in and out. The door should be positioned so you can safely pass by the car to store a bicycle or similar.
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