ᐅ Floor Plan Design: Bathroom Shower

Created on: 26 Aug 2019 21:53
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464!RDO
Hello dear forum community,

we are almost finished with the planning of our project, but there is one issue that has concerned us from the start and that we haven’t been able to solve given the current floor plan layout.

I’ll try to keep it brief: We definitely want a built-in shower without a door in the ground floor bathroom (it doesn’t have to be fully walled up to the ceiling; it can also be half-open with, for example, glass extending up to the ceiling). Because of strict building regulations—or rather, regulations that are not favorable for our project—we get very little living space in the attic, so we had to give up on having the bedroom there. Therefore, the bedroom, dressing room, and master bathroom are all on the ground floor. Due to the somewhat limited square footage, we are unable to fit the shower in the bathroom the way we would like. Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on how we could plan the shower a bit larger or longer within this floor plan so that we wouldn’t need a door for the shower? I was told that a doorless shower only makes sense from about 1.60m (5 ft 3 in) in length.

I’m deliberately not going into further detailed information about the project, the plot, etc., since this concerns only the bathroom. The bathroom is 12.66 m2 (136 sq ft), the dressing room is 9.09 m2 (98 sq ft), and the master bedroom is 15.31 m2 (165 sq ft).

For completeness, here are all three floors.

Thanks in advance for all helpful suggestions.
2D Grundrissplan eines Dachgeschosses mit Flur, Bad, Gast- und Kinderzimmern

Grundriss eines Apartments: offener Wohn-/Essbereich, Küche, Bad, Schlafen, Ankleide, Abstellraum.

Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage mit zwei Autos links, Hobby, Waschen/Trocken, Flur, Keller 1 und 2, Treppe.
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464!RDO
16 Dec 2019 10:47
These are already very valuable tips. Thank you! We simply hadn’t considered the issue with the bed until now. Since this opinion has been shared several times here, it’s no problem to change it. I can understand the reasoning behind it. Thanks for that. The suggestion with the two windows (possibly floor-to-ceiling on the left and right side of the bed) on the lower side of the plan, with the bed also on the lower side of the plan, is not a bad idea. However, from the outside (window arrangement), in my opinion, it no longer looks harmonious.

Can you imagine rearranging the bathroom as shown in the sketch? Sorry, none of the dimensions are correct here, it’s just a rough idea. I would shift the window slightly toward the top of the plan. Make the bathtub larger, swap the shower with the cabinet, and place the toilet between the (then smaller) cabinet and the bathtub. The room dimensions were visible in the second file in my penultimate post above, weren’t they?!

Grundriss eines Badezimmers: links Schrank, WC in der Mitte, Wanne 2 m rechts, Dusche unten.


Westansicht eines modernen zweistöckigen Hauses mit Anbau rechts, Garage links und Baum.


Nordansicht eines Hauses auf Hanglage mit Treppe rechts und Garage unten.
kaho67416 Dec 2019 11:00
I see, said the blind man. I only had the first sketch in mind.
So far, I like the last proposal best.
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Otus11
16 Dec 2019 11:12
One more point about the walk-in closet: the lower wall segment with the 3.01 m (9 ft 11 in) measurement is probably during the shell construction phase.

If a standard built-in wardrobe of 3 m (9 ft 10 in) is planned here later, a few centimeters will be missing when including plaster and baseboard. Therefore, it is better to plan for at least 3.10 m (10 ft 2 in) during the shell construction phase.

The plan above for the bathroom seems to show the wall being even shorter.
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Würfel*
19 Dec 2019 11:41
Here is another suggestion. Make the bathroom slightly larger, move the door, and shift the walk-in closet a bit closer to the bedroom. Place the door to the walk-in closet further forward, so you can also have a 3m (10 feet) wardrobe on the other side. The window above the bed could have a higher sill height like the kitchen, which would also fit the exterior appearance. The bed would definitely be better positioned this way, as it allows more space on both sides. The bathroom windows would need to be moved. There would be room for a large shower and a large bathtub.
Grundriss eines Hauses mit Wohnzimmer, Essen, Küche, Ankleide, Abstellraum und Terrasse
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ypg
19 Dec 2019 19:43
464!RDO schrieb:

All right, no big deal. I will do my very best.
To be delivered later

Well, you’re reliable


About the bed: just as Kerstin explained. It is also very pleasant to look at the bed and see it as a whole with the head area visible, that is, from the foot end.
464!RDO schrieb:

The main question (see post no. 1) was how we can implement the desired shower.

I don’t like it at all and, without a sketch, would simply suggest swapping the shower and the bathtub—moving the bathtub out of the entrance area so you can relax more. Place the washbasins on the dressing room wall next to the toilet.

Maybe I would also try to arrange a kind of guest WC at the front of the bathroom—a toilet and washbasin—and place the private area generally towards the back. The upper floor is not our concern?

Basically, I wouldn’t ruin the center of the house with a storage room just because of Feng Shui, as this middle area is quite inconvenient to walk around. For me, the direct entry path into the home should always lead into the kitchen (here, right after the stairs), and not around a room that plays a minor role. Every day you’d be annoyed to have to tear down this nuisance just to avoid always taking that detour—and even worse, through the living room.

Before I move, reduce, or relocate the storage room to an exterior wall, I would swap the living room and kitchen. The kitchen belongs next to the terrace with direct ground-level access. The living room doesn’t need access to the garden!

Is there a north arrow? Unfortunately, I can’t see one on the iPad.
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464!RDO
19 Dec 2019 20:11
ypg schrieb:

The kitchen should be located next to the terrace with direct floor-level access. The living room doesn’t need direct access to the garden!

Thank you very much for your opinion. How did you come to this conclusion? Did someone shout this down from a mountain or carve it into a stone tablet 2,000 years ago? For me, it would be quite uncomfortable if guests had to walk through or past the kitchen to get to the living or dining room. Of course, here it’s an open kitchen, too. But (at least how we do it), guests stay in the living room with the kids, and we take care of the "battlefield" in the kitchen. In our plans, the kitchen and the directly adjoining dining room have a direct view of the courtyard, facing the street where our children will probably spend a lot of time. I often spend several hours in the kitchen preparing food. I like to keep an eye on what’s going on (postman arriving, guests coming, kids playing, weather in summer—thunderstorms). Could you give me some arguments to support your statement? On the side of the house where the stairwell and living room are located (top of the plan), there is a forest. It goes up the hill with a lot of trees. I wouldn’t want to have the kitchen there where I spend a lot of time. We usually only sit in the living room when watching TV or playing with the kids. And 90% of the time in the evening, my wife is watching TV there while I’m sitting on the terrace with my laptop. I currently enjoy that in our apartment because I can still talk to my wife while she’s reading or watching TV on the couch.

Having the living room facing the forest also gives us the opportunity to be undisturbed. Facing the front towards the other residential houses doesn’t make sense to me. But you didn’t have this info before in that case.

The storage room should be less of a storage space and more of a pantry or beverage storage. The only downside I see is that I have to walk a longer distance after shopping. However, the pantry will only be entered when cooking or bringing new drinks to guests at the dining table.

A few more attachments might help clarify the overall picture

Site plan of a property with a blue building outline, setback areas and parcel numbers.


Floor plan of a house with corridor, guest room, bathroom and two children’s rooms.


Aerial photo of a residential area with red roofs, green spaces and an arrow pointing to grass.