ᐅ Building the interior of a new timber frame house with solid construction?
Created on: 30 Nov 2019 21:02
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hb-julia
Hello,
we are considering having a timber-framed house built.
However, it is rather unpleasant that current energy-saving regulations require insulation that covers the timber frame of the building envelope – often finished with drywall or, at best, fiber-reinforced gypsum boards.
Doesn’t it make more sense to build solid walls on the inside, for example with sand-lime bricks?
Or would that become too expensive?
we are considering having a timber-framed house built.
However, it is rather unpleasant that current energy-saving regulations require insulation that covers the timber frame of the building envelope – often finished with drywall or, at best, fiber-reinforced gypsum boards.
Doesn’t it make more sense to build solid walls on the inside, for example with sand-lime bricks?
Or would that become too expensive?
hb-julia schrieb:
I have heard that timber frame houses are generally more solid and can last several centuries They can indeed last several centuries, but what practical benefit does that offer you? Conversely, think about all the archaeological monuments preserved above ground—what are they made of? The more durable materials are naturally stone or adobe bricks, for example, but not wood. The main reason there have been and still are many houses with wooden frames or primarily made of wood is simply that wood was more readily available and easier to work with than stone.
guckuck2 schrieb:
I still don’t see the connection as to how a solid interior wall changes the issue, [...]
I would rather think of a conventional solid construction with a ventilated facade. It seems to me that the original poster just expressed herself awkwardly and actually means the interior side of exterior walls. That is why I also interpreted it as a ventilated facade. However, I cannot make sense of the statement
hb-julia schrieb:
I have heard that timber-framed houses are generally more solid, because adding beams almost like an external insulation system (EIFS / ETICS) in front of a sand-lime brick wall doesn’t change the fact that the house fundamentally has masonry walls.
Overall, I get the impression that @hb-julia tries to approach the topic of house planning through very naive, sporadically asked questions. Each time, she seems to hope that some rule of thumb might prove to be the guiding thread that leads to the core of the Pandora’s box that is house construction. Three years ago, she wondered if a city villa with an offset shed roof might be the silver bullet—no “eureka” moment followed. Now she hopes revisiting the timber-framed house question from four years ago might finally bear fruit. The saving idea has not appeared yet.
Instead of hoping for a meaningful outcome by essentially placing a solid house inside a timber frame house, I recommend a route that countless other forum users have taken and that, in my opinion, has proven much more effective: simply start a thread here with a completed questionnaire and then leave the rest to the collective intelligence of this community.
Otherwise, we will be meeting again in 2022 asking another helpless partial question, still not five centimeters closer to completing the house.
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boxandroof2 Dec 2019 17:05Maybe it's for the best that things didn’t progress.
The general contractor/broker-type company that once seemed interesting to the OP, with a big presence and the lowest prices, no longer exists.
The general contractor/broker-type company that once seemed interesting to the OP, with a big presence and the lowest prices, no longer exists.
nordanney schrieb:
Actually, it does affect the appearance. You could have also asked about brick veneers or painting the house pink. All of these add something to the look.
I’ve heard that solid (masonry) houses are more durable. But I’ll never be able to verify that personally since I won’t live for centuries.
P.S. You don’t actually want to build a timber-framed house, just the look. That’s how I understand your intention. 11ant schrieb:
some other forum users go for, and which in my opinion is more proven and effective: simply starting a thread here with a completed questionnaire, and leaving the rest to the bacterial culture of collective intelligenceIs that correct? But what exactly is meant by the completed questionnaire and the bacterial culture?
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Trademark2 Dec 2019 22:12Just a quick question for clarification: In your opinion, is it no longer possible to build a new timber-framed house because energy standards cannot be met? So the facade has to be covered from the outside? Or do you mean from the inside? Honestly, either way, that’s absolute nonsense.
In our region, there is a company that builds new timber-framed houses (a quick Google search for German country house classics or dlk melle gives good results). Their minimum standard is KfW 55, and they often build KfW 40 and passive houses.
You need to be able to afford it and have a good contractor. But technically, it seems feasible.
In our region, there is a company that builds new timber-framed houses (a quick Google search for German country house classics or dlk melle gives good results). Their minimum standard is KfW 55, and they often build KfW 40 and passive houses.
You need to be able to afford it and have a good contractor. But technically, it seems feasible.
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