Good morning,
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
Of course, one could experiment a bit. Here is a little concept for the original poster. However, there are minor imperfections – on the left side, I extended the boundary development, still without approval. If that’s not possible, the restroom will have to be moved elsewhere, the children’s room will be shifted, and a necessary corner will be created. The pink areas represent the existing structure.
My main intention is just to illustrate what we mean and show that, with some clever planning, it might be possible to have more living space without increasing the budget. When I look at the plans for the vacation apartment, I wonder where the money is supposed to come from and whether it is even located in an area where people would want to spend their holidays. In my opinion, the plot should at least be within walking distance of the beach or right next to Neuschwanstein Castle before I consider staying in such a small dwelling in the backyard.
My main intention is just to illustrate what we mean and show that, with some clever planning, it might be possible to have more living space without increasing the budget. When I look at the plans for the vacation apartment, I wonder where the money is supposed to come from and whether it is even located in an area where people would want to spend their holidays. In my opinion, the plot should at least be within walking distance of the beach or right next to Neuschwanstein Castle before I consider staying in such a small dwelling in the backyard.
11ant schrieb:
The question will probably remain unanswered, because it was ununderstood: I know of empty conduits for electrical wiring and can imagine them for other utilities as well, but what on earth are empty conduits for Worst Case? – If these are supposed to be empty conduits for an "Alert Level 42" (= you don’t yet know what will be needed), then they would have to be multi-utility conduits, right? – That would probably require at least DN 300, and honestly, I wouldn’t know what the most suitable material would be for that. Exactly. Alert level supply lines (electricity/water/telecommunications) and wastewater, if we wanted to lay both under the foundation slab.
kaho674 schrieb:
Ah, I see. That came up because the original poster had ruled it out at some point, and I actually assumed it was just some kind of garage. Hello Katja, sorry for the late reply. Thank you for your effort, but as mentioned several times before, the outbuilding will be included in the storage planning; however, we will not be building across different structures.
The current use of the outbuilding is limited to office and storage space, although the plan is for it to be used later as a living space (for elderly care or similar).
We have now also signed the consumer contract with our local solid construction builder.
Nordlys schrieb:
The utility room is a service room, and so is the kitchen. Both should form a functional unit, where dishes are kept in the kitchen along with a small amount of food, and supplies and such are stored in the utility room. Also shoes. Don’t forget the mop sink. That’s how we will implement it, which solves the awkward issue of access through the hallway/guest bathroom.
Could someone share information about the rough opening dimensions for the access to the utility room?
Is 75–80cm (30–31.5 inches) enough?
Plaster 5cm (2 inches)
Base cabinet 60cm (24 inches)
Door frame approx. 7cm (3 inches)
I’m also unsure about the placement of the mop sink.
micric3 schrieb:
The current use of the NG is limited to office and storage space, although planning is aimed towards later use as a residential apartment (for caring for parents or similar).???
micric3 schrieb:
Consumer contract?? Hopefully a construction contract!