Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size = 600 m² (6458 sq ft)
Number of floors = 2
Roof type = Gable
Client Requirements
2 children’s bedrooms
1 office
1 walk-in closet
1 bedroom
Guest toilet and bathroom
Open-plan kitchen and living area
1 utility room
Double garage with storage area
House Design
Found on the internet
Why is the design like it is now?
Plan currently fits best
Utility room and office swapped due to door leading to garage
Dislike the large hallway on the first floor
The footprint of 9.5 x 9.5 m (31 x 31 ft) should be maintained
Layout should be as simple and cost-effective as possible
No unnecessary features
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
More elegant solutions with less hallway space loss?


Plot size = 600 m² (6458 sq ft)
Number of floors = 2
Roof type = Gable
Client Requirements
2 children’s bedrooms
1 office
1 walk-in closet
1 bedroom
Guest toilet and bathroom
Open-plan kitchen and living area
1 utility room
Double garage with storage area
House Design
Found on the internet
Why is the design like it is now?
Plan currently fits best
Utility room and office swapped due to door leading to garage
Dislike the large hallway on the first floor
The footprint of 9.5 x 9.5 m (31 x 31 ft) should be maintained
Layout should be as simple and cost-effective as possible
No unnecessary features
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
More elegant solutions with less hallway space loss?
vanny2705 schrieb:
...the staircase leads up to the attic, where a small office could be set up. The attic could be finished as a DIY project to keep costs down. Additional storage space could be created under the staircase on the ground floor.I also like the idea of using the attic as an expansion option in the shell stage for the office.Here is the 35° pitch version with a knee wall of 1.50m (5 feet):
Let’s check the budget in the questionnaire... oh, it hasn’t been filled out.
kaho674 schrieb:
I recently saw a floor plan measuring 950x950 that I quite liked. Finally, something reasonable: most alternative villa models with a side length of 950 avoid floor area-appropriate stair layouts like the devil avoids holy water.
kaho674 schrieb:
However, there is no office there. There is never an office — just a leftover space that is often labeled as "office" or "guest room." Bismarck supposedly said it was good that people didn’t know exactly how sausages and laws were made — this can also apply to urban villa floor plans: 1. take an area (90 sqm (970 sqft)) and calculate the square root > 2. you get the side length (950) > 3. place the garden side at the top of the plan, orienting the living room towards it, and the street side at the bottom > 4. since the average mass-market tourist equates aesthetics with symmetry, a straight, single-flight staircase is placed in the center > 5. the leftover area is then called either an office or guest room > 6. the model is shown in a "3D" rendering on an endless meadow, with a popular company car parked beside it; additional decoration is a pretty young wife admiring the proud homeowner. DONE!
hegi___ schrieb:
I found a better floor plan. In my opinion, for your approach, you need more than just the floor plan. It seems you imagine taking a floor plan you grabbed somewhere from the internet, then looking for a general contractor to build the shell and simply attaching that floor plan to the building permit application. But it doesn’t work like that. For a construction with minimal complications, the contractor and a design they have already built many times before form a bundled package that cannot be easily separated. So for your motto "the design must cost nothing," you first need to select — preferably from at most a handful of concrete builders in your or a neighboring district, in my view.
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hegi___ schrieb:
I have found a better floor plan. Provided the staircase fits in a 2 x 2 meter (6.5 x 6.5 feet) space.Are you aware that your living area will hardly receive any sunlight throughout the year? With a northeast orientation, you might catch a bit of the morning sun from the east, but that won’t be possible if there is a garage located there.
If the garage stays there (but even if it could be moved), I would at least rotate the floor plan 90 degrees counterclockwise so that the front door is next to the garage door. This way, both children’s rooms would get more sunlight. Since children live there and need natural daylight, it’s best to avoid north-facing bedrooms if possible. The kitchen would also get much more daylight with southwest-facing windows.
If possible—I don’t know the neighboring plots or their views—I would even consider rotating the ground floor 180 degrees toward the sun. However, that would require redesigning the entrance area and at least the adjacent rooms.
ypg schrieb:
Please address the questions, suggestions, and ideas that have now been spread over 5 pages.
Some people can’t proceed further because they are waiting for your response.
You need to engage in the discussion if you want to take anything away from it… (Discussion… where is it?) I have already addressed this and now created a draft with a spiral staircase. As someone suggested, this also provides more space for the wardrobe and for welcoming guests.
ltenzer schrieb:
Personally, I would prefer to orient my living spaces towards the sun. Northeast is rather unfavorable. Are there reasons why you didn’t do this, for example regarding the view or privacy? I understand the issue with sun orientation. The reason we have chosen the current layout is that there is a main road running along the garage side. The house and garage should shield the noise from the garden and living areas, which are located between the kitchen and the garage. We will also install a ventilation system, so the windows will mostly remain closed.
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11ant schrieb:
In my opinion, your approach model requires more than just the floor plan. It seems you imagine that you can find a shell contractor by using a floor plan you picked up somewhere on the internet and simply attach this floor plan to the building permit / planning permission. But it doesn’t work like that. For a construction with minimal complications, the contractor and a design they have built many times is a bundle that cannot be easily separated. Regarding your motto “the design must cost nothing,” you first need to make a selection—ideally among a maximum of a handful of solid builders from your district or a neighboring one, in my view. That is not my expectation either. However, the architect’s effort is reduced if they don’t have to start with a blank sheet of paper.
I am still exploring options, but currently, I have an offer of 4500 € gross for services phases 1 to 4.
For cost reasons, I am moving away from a general contractor. The shell house does not pay off because of high prices. With our requirements, I am currently looking at around 180,000 € for shell construction, roof, and windows. No one offers the work without windows and doors, though. I would rather have my brother-in-law install those. I also hope to save money by purchasing the doors and windows myself.
I expect to save on the building services because I will do that myself, having trained in this profession. Material savings alone are about 50% if I buy online. (Panasonic air-to-water heat pump: 2500 €)
Please note that we are building in Saarland, where prices are generally somewhat lower.
The other proposals unfortunately did not meet the room number requirements.
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