ᐅ Satellite System – Buying Guide and Installation

Created on: 8 Jun 2019 12:51
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SenorRaul7
Hi. I have no knowledge about satellite dishes and electrical work, so I will have a professional install the dish soon.
Right now, I am in the process of ordering the "materials." The dish will be mounted on the roof. We have already received the special roof tile from the construction company. The antenna cables will be routed and connected in the attic and then distributed to the rooms from there.

I had chosen the following dish:
DUR-line Select 85cm/90cm (33in/35in) Anthracite Satellite Dish - 3 x Test + Very Good + Aluminum Satellite Reflector

Along with this LNB + multiband switch:
DUR-line Ultra Quattro LNB - only for multiswitch, black - with LTE filter

DUR-line MS 5/8 Blue eco power-saving multiswitch - for 8 satellite users/TVs - no power supply needed - 0 Watt standby multiswitch [Digital, HDTV, FullHD, 4K, UHD]

Questions:

1. If I understand the dish description and questions in the reviews correctly, no roof mast or rafter mount is included. So I would need those separately, right? How about this one:
PremiumX Basic X120-48 Satellite TV rafter mount with 120cm (47in) galvanized steel mast, rafter bracket for satellite antenna satellite dish | Cable entry mast cap 10 coax cables

2. And I would also need cable and a grounding block, correct?

50m (164ft) PremiumX Deluxe PRO coaxial cable BLACK 135dB 5-fold shielded, pure copper satellite antenna cable 50m (164ft) 135dB 10x F connectors gold-plated 8.0mm (0.31in)

DUR-line grounding block DEB 9-way made of high-quality cast - shielding > 90 dB - SAT/cable/FM/DVB-T

3. Do people still need an antenna for radio reception nowadays? Doesn’t everything run mostly over the internet now? If yes, what type of antenna should I get and what else should I consider?
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SenorRaul7
11 Nov 2019 17:31
I need to follow up on the rafter bracket:

The DR-line Hercules rafter bracket is designed for rafter widths of 55-90 cm (22-35 inches).

How should I measure the distance between the rafters in my attic? Should I measure the internal distance, meaning from the inside edge to the inside edge of the rafters? Or the external distance? The internal measurement is 80 cm (31 inches), which fits the Hercules bracket, but the external measurement, including the width of both rafters, is about 95 cm (37 inches)...
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danixf
11 Nov 2019 18:24
SenorRaul7 schrieb:

I need to clarify something about the rafter bracket:
The DR-line Hercules rafter bracket is designed for rafter widths of 55–90cm (22–35 inches).

How do I measure the distance between the rafters in my attic? Should I measure the internal distance, meaning from the inner edge to inner edge of the rafters, or the external distance?
The internal measurement is 80cm (31 inches), which is suitable for the Hercules, but the external measurement, including the widths of both rafters, is about 95cm (37 inches)…


Center to center. That should fit your situation.
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SenorRaul7
12 Nov 2019 14:31
I have called several companies to inquire about installation. When I mentioned that this is for a new build, I was told they wouldn’t install the rafter brackets for me due to warranty concerns. They said it could cause issues with the roofer’s warranty.

How did you handle this? Did you have the roofer install the rafter brackets directly? I don’t feel confident doing it myself.
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danixf
12 Nov 2019 19:38
SenorRaul7 schrieb:

How did you handle that? Did you have the roofer install the rafter bracket directly? I’m not confident enough to do it myself.

I did it myself. It’s not rocket science. Otherwise, bite the bullet and accept a quote from the roofer. Or you could order one from Amazon and pay the workers 10/20€ to quickly install it. Warranty might be an issue, but driving in six screws and holding a level should be manageable for them. You can have a company take care of the rest.
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SenorRaul7
17 Nov 2019 20:00
So, over the weekend a friend (a professional) came by and installed the satellite dish on the roof. It went really well; four cables run from the Quattro LNB into the attic to the multiswitch. From the multiswitch, six cables go to our rooms to the satellite sockets.

Once everything was fully installed, my friend used his device to check the signal at each individual socket. Four worked perfectly with an excellent signal. But two sockets had no signal at all. He even opened one of the sockets and measured directly at the cable. So, the problem is not the socket itself, but the cable running through the walls to the attic. The direct outputs on the multiswitch all have a perfect signal as well. So it can’t be the LNB either.

I will call the site manager tomorrow, but I wanted to ask here first. How do you track down the fault in such a case? Are there specific testing devices that can locate or narrow down the issue? I’m puzzled how this could happen with new cables in a new house...
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danixf
17 Nov 2019 23:28
SenorRaul7 schrieb:

There are special measuring devices that can detect or narrow down the fault, right? I don’t see how this can happen with new cables in a new house...

Yes, there are devices that can measure the distance to the fault. However, they are quite expensive.
Well, when I think about how people walk all over cables on construction sites, I’m not surprised—especially with "data cables." Are the cables not installed in conduit? If they are, replacing them would be relatively straightforward.