Good morning,
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
ypg schrieb:
For a house length of almost 17 meters (56 feet): have you considered an L-shape? That way, you can get more rooms facing south and west.
Also, you wouldn’t have a utility room door opening into the living room. The equipment inside can be annoying if the door can’t be closed properly.No, we don’t “design freely.”micric3 schrieb:
..., if we were designing it freely!Reason:ypg schrieb:
Uncalculated extra costs compared to a general contractor (GC) model.Well, you could of course keep walking through the guest bathroom to get to the laundry room all your life. Or you could simply ask how much the L-shape would cost. Or we keep trying here for a few more years until the house becomes unaffordable anyway.J
j.bautsch12 Nov 2019 09:15By the way, the kitchen island isn’t deep enough; plan for at least 90cm (35 inches) depth. It’s better to have more if you really want seating at the island. Otherwise, people will be sitting in the cooking splatter!
micric3 schrieb:
Good morning, it’s a cold roof. See #168 With a house length of just under 17m (56 feet), there should be quite a bit of storage space. I don’t have exact figures for this.
Well, some kind of roof has to go on, but you can forget about using your cold roof as storage space for 99% of household items. A cold roof is like a garage—you can’t store fabrics or delicate things there. Only tires, bicycles, and tricycles—but nobody wants to carry those up the stairs.
Before planning the stairs, I’d check whether there is enough standing height where they arrive and what roof pitch you would need for that. I assume you already have a general contractor’s model that you don’t want to deviate from. What is the roof pitch there?
By the way, we had to pay an additional charge to make our cold roof fully walkable (we have a hip roof—which made the extra cost quite reasonable).
kaho, don’t drive people crazy.
I believe we’ve already discussed this. Please insulate the cold roof. If there’s a staircase, use tongue-and-groove boarding and a studio rafter roof. If there’s a staircase, check the roof pitch with the structural engineer regarding headroom. The additional cost will be under 20,000.
I believe we’ve already discussed this. Please insulate the cold roof. If there’s a staircase, use tongue-and-groove boarding and a studio rafter roof. If there’s a staircase, check the roof pitch with the structural engineer regarding headroom. The additional cost will be under 20,000.
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