Good morning,
In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much

In principle, the floor plan we want to proceed with in the planning phase is already set.
See thread: #177 Finalizing the floor plan Bungalow 130m² (1,399 ft²) for 4 people
However, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss a different room orientation once more.
The "living rectangle" including the kitchen remains similar to the original floor plan. The living room will be slightly shorter.
Our garden area is on the south (left side of the plan) and west (top of the plan).
This would allow the following optimizations:
- Both children's bedrooms facing west would each get a terrace door, giving direct access to the courtyard (suggestion by @ypg)
- The living room would also receive 2 terrace doors directly, now with a view of the greenery instead of the neighbor’s boundary development
- The outdoor unit of the air-to-water heat pump would be located "behind" the house, where it would at most bother the neighbor
What I like less, and why I am posting again to get advice/comments:
Entrance / Hallway / Foyer
- (remains an L-shape) slightly longer
- I have no ideas for implementing a coat storage
- Lighting? Possibly a narrow window in the living room
Utility room / Guest toilet
- Unusual solution if you want to keep an "L-shaped corridor"
- Entrance area of the toilet would be walk-through space for the utility room
Other possible access points:
- Kitchen
- Guest toilet
- Door to the outside
Also the question: How high is the extra effort/cost if the utility room is located on the other side of the house, in terms of connection costs?
Top of the plan: West (utility connections)
Left side of the plan: South
Right side of the plan: North
Bottom of the plan: East
I hope I don’t just get opposition but can start a productive discussion here.
Basically weighing the pros and cons.
Thank you very much
As you know, we are exploring different approaches/layouts for the planning phase. For this preferred layout [inhabited rooms facing west/garden], I have made some additional changes.
- There will likely be two terraces [south & west]
- All rooms on the west side (top of the plan) will have a 1.40m (4 ft 7 in) wide terrace door
- Both corridors shortened slightly, and the entrance area reduced to a width of 1.80m (5 ft 11 in)
- Entrance area with a canopy
- Access to the utility room via an exterior door or interior door through the living area (my wife prefers no access through the kitchen or guest WC)
- Kitchen with only one terrace door, no window above the kitchen island
- Bathroom roughly sketched out
Suggestions on how to create symmetry in the appearance would be appreciated
- West (top of the plan): The children’s rooms are limited by door placement, but they could also be mirrored
- South (left side of the plan): I don’t have any ideas except maybe a wooden cladding between the kitchen exit and terrace door as a visual design element
Additional advice regarding extra conduits/ducts for a "worst-case" scenario is also requested
- The plan should include at least 2 additional conduits in the utility room (short east side)
Otherwise, happy to receive the usual constructive feedback.
Thank you
M.



- There will likely be two terraces [south & west]
- All rooms on the west side (top of the plan) will have a 1.40m (4 ft 7 in) wide terrace door
- Both corridors shortened slightly, and the entrance area reduced to a width of 1.80m (5 ft 11 in)
- Entrance area with a canopy
- Access to the utility room via an exterior door or interior door through the living area (my wife prefers no access through the kitchen or guest WC)
- Kitchen with only one terrace door, no window above the kitchen island
- Bathroom roughly sketched out
Suggestions on how to create symmetry in the appearance would be appreciated
- West (top of the plan): The children’s rooms are limited by door placement, but they could also be mirrored
- South (left side of the plan): I don’t have any ideas except maybe a wooden cladding between the kitchen exit and terrace door as a visual design element
Additional advice regarding extra conduits/ducts for a "worst-case" scenario is also requested
- The plan should include at least 2 additional conduits in the utility room (short east side)
Otherwise, happy to receive the usual constructive feedback.
Thank you
M.
micric3 schrieb:
Access to the utility room via an exterior door or an interior door through the living area (my wife does not want access through the kitchen or guest bathroom) Please share your reasoning: why would you prefer to have the utility room accessible through the living room rather than other options? The kitchen or (no longer existing) hallway? What do you see as the advantages there?
micric3 schrieb:
Now some suggestions on how to achieve symmetry in the overall appearance would be great Why symmetry? And don’t say just because it looks better.
ypg schrieb:
Let us share your reasoning: why would you prefer to access the utility room through the living room instead of any other way? I would also have leaned more towards the kitchen; it’s basically a compromise. Whether it’s a pantry/storage room or a door to Hogwarts doesn’t really matter. It’s just a door at the beginning of the walking path in the living area.
Good morning, it is a cold roof. See #168 With a house length of just under 17 m (56 feet), there should be quite a bit of storage space. I do not have exact figures for this.
Of course, it is not ideal that the door to the living room has to be closed in order to access the utility room (for example, for doing laundry). We still have the option to handle this via the guest bathroom. But we will leave this to the architect.
Of course, it is not ideal that the door to the living room has to be closed in order to access the utility room (for example, for doing laundry). We still have the option to handle this via the guest bathroom. But we will leave this to the architect.
With a house length of almost 17 meters (56 feet), have you considered an L-shape? That way, you get more rooms facing south and west.
You also won’t have a utility room door opening into the living room. The equipment inside can be annoying if the door can’t be properly closed.
You also won’t have a utility room door opening into the living room. The equipment inside can be annoying if the door can’t be properly closed.
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