ᐅ Finalizing the floor plan for a 130 m² bungalow designed for 4 people
Created on: 23 Jul 2019 08:00
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micric3
Hello,
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
Nordlys, for you. If I had children, I might see it differently, but the discussion is pointless.
I’m not super slim, but we have a distance of over 120cm (47 inches) between our kitchen units, and even on one side we have extra deep drawers. My husband, who isn’t tall and slim either, can easily pass me when I’m working there, and vice versa.
The small partition wall is trendy, but I’m not sure if you want that in the long run, and with Nordlys I almost agree again. The wiring is actually the least problem in that setup.
And I also agree with Nordlys that with the window arrangement in Würfel’s plan, there really isn’t much wall left. I would, I think I already mentioned this, combine the two windows on the east side into one larger window.
About windows again: we also struggled a lot with whether we wanted a window on the peninsula. From a lighting perspective, we would have liked that, especially since the window would have been on the left — which is ideal for right-handers to get the best light. However, it looked so awkward from the outside, having a window next to the patio door, that we decided against it. Otherwise, our windows are like this: patio door between the kitchen rows and a large sliding window next to the dining area. And experience shows: it’s still bright enough. So I would leave out the window on the peninsula. That way you get a nice space to hang, for example, a magnetic board for all important family notes, shopping lists, kids’ schedules, etc.
I’ll attach some pictures of our kitchen (which is still not completely finished) — the photos are a bit older, but you can see that despite the missing window, the island gets enough light — so you can see that a window on the island is really not necessary (and it definitely benefits the south-facing facade). Also, to get a rough idea of how wide a walkway between kitchen units of over 120cm (we estimate about 125 to 127cm (49 to 50 inches)) is.
Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES plan a sliding door between the kitchen units, but a regular patio door (if it’s more than 120 or 130 cm (47 or 51 inches), then better part fixed glass — since you’ll be standing there anyway — and a classic patio door). With a sliding door placed as shown here, you only get half the width as a passage. That would be too narrow for me. We have a patio door with 120cm (47 inches) and I can easily get through it even while carrying a wide tray.
I’m not super slim, but we have a distance of over 120cm (47 inches) between our kitchen units, and even on one side we have extra deep drawers. My husband, who isn’t tall and slim either, can easily pass me when I’m working there, and vice versa.
The small partition wall is trendy, but I’m not sure if you want that in the long run, and with Nordlys I almost agree again. The wiring is actually the least problem in that setup.
And I also agree with Nordlys that with the window arrangement in Würfel’s plan, there really isn’t much wall left. I would, I think I already mentioned this, combine the two windows on the east side into one larger window.
About windows again: we also struggled a lot with whether we wanted a window on the peninsula. From a lighting perspective, we would have liked that, especially since the window would have been on the left — which is ideal for right-handers to get the best light. However, it looked so awkward from the outside, having a window next to the patio door, that we decided against it. Otherwise, our windows are like this: patio door between the kitchen rows and a large sliding window next to the dining area. And experience shows: it’s still bright enough. So I would leave out the window on the peninsula. That way you get a nice space to hang, for example, a magnetic board for all important family notes, shopping lists, kids’ schedules, etc.
I’ll attach some pictures of our kitchen (which is still not completely finished) — the photos are a bit older, but you can see that despite the missing window, the island gets enough light — so you can see that a window on the island is really not necessary (and it definitely benefits the south-facing facade). Also, to get a rough idea of how wide a walkway between kitchen units of over 120cm (we estimate about 125 to 127cm (49 to 50 inches)) is.
Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES plan a sliding door between the kitchen units, but a regular patio door (if it’s more than 120 or 130 cm (47 or 51 inches), then better part fixed glass — since you’ll be standing there anyway — and a classic patio door). With a sliding door placed as shown here, you only get half the width as a passage. That would be too narrow for me. We have a patio door with 120cm (47 inches) and I can easily get through it even while carrying a wide tray.
I somehow completely lost track of this thread. Thanks for the suggestions @Würfel* @Climbee. Of course, there will be no sliding door in the kitchen.
Right now, I’m struggling with another issue. @ypg pointed out that in a bungalow, doors should be used instead of windows :<]
Since doors shouldn’t take up the theoretical width of a window, I’m looking for good advice on what width the doors should be planned at. The general contractor is planning 1.12 m (about 44 inches), which according to @11ant and the topic https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Terrassentür-maximal-funktionierende-breite.25889/#post-229900 is standard.
However, I think that for a room that is 3 m (10 feet) or 3.30 m (11 feet) wide, the doors should actually be wider to allow more natural light. In our apartment, the kitchen (3 m wide) has a balcony door and a window, and the bedroom and living room, with widths of about 3.30/3.40 m (11/11 ft), each have two windows about 95 cm (37 inches) wide.
What would be a good solution here?
Good luck
M
Right now, I’m struggling with another issue. @ypg pointed out that in a bungalow, doors should be used instead of windows :<]
Since doors shouldn’t take up the theoretical width of a window, I’m looking for good advice on what width the doors should be planned at. The general contractor is planning 1.12 m (about 44 inches), which according to @11ant and the topic https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Terrassentür-maximal-funktionierende-breite.25889/#post-229900 is standard.
However, I think that for a room that is 3 m (10 feet) or 3.30 m (11 feet) wide, the doors should actually be wider to allow more natural light. In our apartment, the kitchen (3 m wide) has a balcony door and a window, and the bedroom and living room, with widths of about 3.30/3.40 m (11/11 ft), each have two windows about 95 cm (37 inches) wide.
What would be a good solution here?
Good luck
M
micric3 schrieb:
I’m struggling with a different topic right now. @ypg mentioned that a bungalow should have doors instead of windows :<] No, that’s not something I wrote. If anything, I probably said THAT FOR ME a bungalow should have patio doors, for example in the bathroom as well. For me, the garden is part of the living space, so it belongs to the house, and why have a bungalow if I can’t step outside everywhere?!
If I wrote it differently, I was probably drunk.
By the way, in my own house with a finished attic, I have on the ground floor two exits on each side (except for the entrance side).
micric3 schrieb:
That’s exactly what I wrote, and I agree with you. I might not have expressed it clearly in a hurry. All good, Yvonne.
Do you have any suggestions regarding the size of the patio doors in the children's rooms?
Good luck
MDouble doors. 160cm (63 inches) or 200cm (79 inches) wide.
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