á Plot with Cutout for Electrical Substation / L-Shaped - Concept Exploration
Created on: 22 Oct 2019 22:42
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Traufgänger22 Oct 2019 22:42Hello everyone,
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but havenât been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we havenât thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long â minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-WĂźrttemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighborâs boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation â it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if weâre lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5â6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and childrenâs toys.
How would you position the garage? Iâm not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement â we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions â do you see things or approaches that we donât, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything â underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-canât you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we havenât considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
We have received a plot of land with a small transformer station located at one corner. We have considered various options but havenât been able to decide on anything yet. This is our first build, so perhaps others might see possibilities or ideas we havenât thought of.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size
Approx. 21m (69 feet) wide x 30m (98 feet) long â minus transformer station = 570 m² (6135 sq ft)
Slope
Very flat, about 1m (3.3 feet) difference across the entire site.
Road is the highest point, then gently slopes down by -1m (-3.3 feet)
Floor space index
See plan
Floor area ratio
See plan
Building envelope, building line and boundary
Marked on the plan, distances according to Baden-WĂźrttemberg state building regulations
Edge development
Non-residential building. To the right side of our plot, the planned residential building with a 3m (10 feet) garage on the neighborâs boundary is shown.
Number of parking spaces
2 per dwelling unit
Number of stories
2
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet)
Roof shape
Open, as far as I have read, all roof types are allowed within the corresponding angles
Architectural style
No specification
Orientation
Flexible within the building envelope
Maximum heights / limits
Max. building height 6.00m (20 feet),
Full building height 8.50m (28 feet)
Max. deviation of 0.50m (1.6 feet) allowed for single-family houses
Other notes:
Existing transformer station at the top left corner.
Setback areas marked on our plot.
Currently surrounded by an earth berm that the utility company temporarily placed on our land for renovation â it will be removed.
Client Requirements
Style, roof form, building type
We are quite unsure. A modern townhouse would be great; I like spacious, bright rooms. Flat roofs are less preferred due to waterproofing concerns. Our plan: a single-family home, possibly with two dwelling units for future renting or an immediate granny flat for a home office.
Basement, floors
1 basement planned for hobbies and home office; 2 full floors possible at a max. height of 6.00m (20 feet)?
Number of occupants, ages
4 people (possibly 5 if weâre lucky), 2 adults around 40 years old, 2 children aged 2 and 5 years
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Ground floor: open living room combined with dining area + kitchen + home office or alternative bedroom for older age.
Shower on ground floor.
Office: dedicated home office space, real workspace usage.
Number of guest stays per year
About 5â6
Open or closed architecture
Preferably open, lots of light, I like floor-to-ceiling windows. Still looking for inspiration, ideas from what is common today and what we might be missing.
Modern construction, white bright rooms, lots of natural light, sun, rather bold, extraordinary.
So far, we might be a bit conventional.
Real kitchen, my wife cooks and bakes, with an island and breakfast bar for quick meals or takeaway pizza.
Number of dining seats
6 for daily use, 10 for parties.
Fireplace
Yes, integrated would be sufficient.
Music/Stereo wall
No specific plans at the moment.
Balcony, roof terrace
Balcony planned facing south, intended to serve as sun protection.
Garage, carport
Double garage at least 6x6m (20x20 feet) or larger to accommodate bicycles and childrenâs toys.
How would you position the garage? Iâm not fully satisfied. A large garage would be nice, maybe even 8m length (26 feet) for a caravan? Though probably too big to fit.
Lawn/garden for playing football and children to run around.
House Design
Planner from a construction company
What do you like most? Why?
Practical layout with smooth transition to the outdoors from the living room, open roof, exposed beams would be nice but complicated and expensive due to double-layer construction.
What do you dislike? Why?
South elevation top, balcony design, window depths, and arrangement â we are unsure. It lacks some flair in the layout.
We welcome ideas or suggestions â do you see things or approaches that we donât, new perspectives or things we might have completely
forgotten or overestimated?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Open, quote pending
Personal budget limit for the house including fittings:
Still in the budgeting phase and not fully clear yet
Preferred heating technology:
Open to anything â underfloor heating is mandatory
If you had to give up something, what features or extras
-can you go without:
Studio
-canât you do without:
Home office
Why is the design the way it is now?
E.g., number and function of rooms, competitor offer as a basis, necessity of the layout due to the plot
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
What implementation ideas do you have that we havenât considered to optimize the plot use? Ideas for the house to inspire or ground us welcome. First build.
Plot plan:
Neighborhood and roof shapes, etc.
Basement floor plan
Ground floor plan
Upper floor plan
Section
Possible 3D renderings
Thanks for all opinions and ideas.
Greetings from Swabia,
Traufgänger
"Roof styles are flexible, but roof pitch between 20° and 38° or pitch between 10° and 20°" â this reminds me of Henry Fordâs saying that you could have a car in any color, as long as itâs black. Why is a temporary earthen embankment being surveyed or mapped?
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Traufgänger23 Oct 2019 09:03Hello 11ant, the earth mound wasnât there before the surveyor was commissioned, and I only noticed it when he came back with it. The utility company has been reminded about the restoration; they spread their excavation spoil on my property.
Regarding the roof styles, there is actually quite a bit of freedom. Most houses being built now are two full stories as a city villa with a hipped roof, I think thatâs what itâs called? So, like cubes with little roofs.
Regards, Traufgänger
Regarding the roof styles, there is actually quite a bit of freedom. Most houses being built now are two full stories as a city villa with a hipped roof, I think thatâs what itâs called? So, like cubes with little roofs.
Regards, Traufgänger
I think this is still okay. Just a few minor points:
1. The balcony. What do you want to do with it? If you have a garden, nobody sits there. Get rid of it.
2. The corner on the ground floor. What is the purpose? It definitely doesnât save money. So remove that too.
3. Rotate the garage 90° so you can drive in straight from the street. The turning around in front of the entrance with such a tight space gets very annoying over time. In my opinion, itâs questionable whether it is allowed so close to the street anyway. Maybe you need to move it a bit further south. Or it might be better to build just a carport â that offers more options.
4. The kitchen window on the north side has a fantastic view thanks to the garage. You could almost leave it out.
5. The partition wall between the bedroom and the walk-in closet can also go. It just makes the room smaller and darker and otherwise has no advantage.
I would say: a solid floor plan with a few small flaws that can still be fixed. But is this really what you want? Does your wife like cooking? For me, that would be a reason to design a dream kitchen with an optimized workspace (ask @kbt09 how to do that), a kitchen island, lots of light, and direct access to the terrace.
1. The balcony. What do you want to do with it? If you have a garden, nobody sits there. Get rid of it.
2. The corner on the ground floor. What is the purpose? It definitely doesnât save money. So remove that too.
3. Rotate the garage 90° so you can drive in straight from the street. The turning around in front of the entrance with such a tight space gets very annoying over time. In my opinion, itâs questionable whether it is allowed so close to the street anyway. Maybe you need to move it a bit further south. Or it might be better to build just a carport â that offers more options.
4. The kitchen window on the north side has a fantastic view thanks to the garage. You could almost leave it out.
5. The partition wall between the bedroom and the walk-in closet can also go. It just makes the room smaller and darker and otherwise has no advantage.
I would say: a solid floor plan with a few small flaws that can still be fixed. But is this really what you want? Does your wife like cooking? For me, that would be a reason to design a dream kitchen with an optimized workspace (ask @kbt09 how to do that), a kitchen island, lots of light, and direct access to the terrace.
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Mottenhausen23 Oct 2019 12:13Iâll be a bit bold: I find the house-garage ensemble attractive, but unsuitable for the plot. Especially since placing the garage outside the building boundary is highly questionable; ancillary structures are often only allowed within the building boundaries (zoning plan).
Take a look at the continuous garden area left if you were to place a custom-built structure tailored to the plot, and also manage with a single garage:
The footprint of the house is the same as your design at 7.5 x 14 m (25 x 46 ft).
The worst part of the current design is the kitchen: from one window you look onto your own garage, from the other onto the neighborâs garage. Okay, maybe great for garage enthusiasts.
Take a look at the continuous garden area left if you were to place a custom-built structure tailored to the plot, and also manage with a single garage:
The footprint of the house is the same as your design at 7.5 x 14 m (25 x 46 ft).
The worst part of the current design is the kitchen: from one window you look onto your own garage, from the other onto the neighborâs garage. Okay, maybe great for garage enthusiasts.
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Traufgänger27 Oct 2019 18:25Hello, thank you for your feedback.
@kaho674:
Regarding the angled garages: If we position the garages straight, we need 5.00 m (16.4 ft) of parking space in front of the garage plus 6.00 m (19.7 ft) garage length, which pushes the building footprint further south. I want to try to stay as far north as possible to maximize the garden area.
Regarding the balcony: We considered adding a balcony in front of the living room on the ground floor as sun protection. The middle room (studio) is intended for the kids as a play/friendsâ room or as an extra guest room.
The corner on the ground floor was a joke taken from a floor plan of a Rensch house; it remained as a visual feature, but I am also considering removing it.
About the kitchen window: Yes, the view isnât great. Of course, the neighborâs garage is right there as well. Placing the kitchen on the other side, northwest, is not ideal either because the transformer box is there. We didnât want the kitchen facing south because we prefer a nice large living room. I tend to prefer the kitchen not being directly visible from the sofa... you always have stuff lying around, and itâs better if itâs not in direct sight.
@Mottenhausen:
The idea was to install a nice photovoltaic system on the roof and have a large south-facing living room. Unfortunately, we need a wide garage, at least 6 x 6 m (19.7 x 19.7 ft), for two parking spaces.
The building envelope is too tight towards the transformer box :/
More feedback is welcome.
@kaho674:
Regarding the angled garages: If we position the garages straight, we need 5.00 m (16.4 ft) of parking space in front of the garage plus 6.00 m (19.7 ft) garage length, which pushes the building footprint further south. I want to try to stay as far north as possible to maximize the garden area.
Regarding the balcony: We considered adding a balcony in front of the living room on the ground floor as sun protection. The middle room (studio) is intended for the kids as a play/friendsâ room or as an extra guest room.
The corner on the ground floor was a joke taken from a floor plan of a Rensch house; it remained as a visual feature, but I am also considering removing it.
About the kitchen window: Yes, the view isnât great. Of course, the neighborâs garage is right there as well. Placing the kitchen on the other side, northwest, is not ideal either because the transformer box is there. We didnât want the kitchen facing south because we prefer a nice large living room. I tend to prefer the kitchen not being directly visible from the sofa... you always have stuff lying around, and itâs better if itâs not in direct sight.
@Mottenhausen:
The idea was to install a nice photovoltaic system on the roof and have a large south-facing living room. Unfortunately, we need a wide garage, at least 6 x 6 m (19.7 x 19.7 ft), for two parking spaces.
The building envelope is too tight towards the transformer box :/
More feedback is welcome.
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