Hello everyone,
firstly, to the questions:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 545 m² (approximately 0.13 acres)
Slope: No
Building type: Single-family house with double garage
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Edge development: No
Parking spaces: None except in the driveway
Number of floors: 1 full floor, 1 attic floor, 10 m x 12 m (33 ft x 39 ft)
Building boundary: 3 m (10 ft) all around, except for the garage
Orientation: South
Maximum wall heights: 4.6 m (15 ft)
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Single-family house with wooden frame construction, gable roof with 42° pitch
Basement, floors: 1 full floor, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 5 persons (49, 37), 3 children (8, 5, 0)
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Ground floor: kitchen-living room, pantry, living room, office, utility room, guest toilet
Upper floor: master bedroom, 3 children’s rooms, bathroom, toilet
Office: for family use but with a sofa bed for guests
Guests staying overnight: 2-4 per year
Conservative or modern style: modern open kitchen, kitchen island with stove and sink on the island
Number of dining seats: 6-8, extendable table
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony: no
Terrace: yes, in front of kitchen-living room and living room, along the entire south side
Garage: large double garage with 50 m² (540 sq ft)
Utility garden: on the west side
Rainwater tank: yes
Other requests / special features, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Mudroom absolutely necessary; the garage door should have a regular door integrated into the rolling gate. We definitely want a separated living area. The living room should be closed off.
On the attic floor, there will be three roof windows and a skylight strip above the shower. A double casement window will be installed in the hallway, one in the toilet, and one in the bathroom.
The area in the upper floor is stated without deducting the roof slope. We will have a knee wall of about 1 m (3 ft).
The bay window will also serve as the dormer.
House Design
Who designed it: Ourselves
What do you particularly like? So far, everything
What don’t you like? Living room a bit small, master bedroom too large
Personal budget limit for house including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage
If you have to give up on any details/finishes:
-can give up: office
-can’t give up: mudroom
We have an appointment with a timber construction company next week, so I’m not sure yet what is possible and what is not. The designs are ours and have been carefully considered for several years now.
I am very curious about your feedback.
Thank you in advance.
Good luck
Ambrosia
firstly, to the questions:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 545 m² (approximately 0.13 acres)
Slope: No
Building type: Single-family house with double garage
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Edge development: No
Parking spaces: None except in the driveway
Number of floors: 1 full floor, 1 attic floor, 10 m x 12 m (33 ft x 39 ft)
Building boundary: 3 m (10 ft) all around, except for the garage
Orientation: South
Maximum wall heights: 4.6 m (15 ft)
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Single-family house with wooden frame construction, gable roof with 42° pitch
Basement, floors: 1 full floor, no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 5 persons (49, 37), 3 children (8, 5, 0)
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor:
Ground floor: kitchen-living room, pantry, living room, office, utility room, guest toilet
Upper floor: master bedroom, 3 children’s rooms, bathroom, toilet
Office: for family use but with a sofa bed for guests
Guests staying overnight: 2-4 per year
Conservative or modern style: modern open kitchen, kitchen island with stove and sink on the island
Number of dining seats: 6-8, extendable table
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony: no
Terrace: yes, in front of kitchen-living room and living room, along the entire south side
Garage: large double garage with 50 m² (540 sq ft)
Utility garden: on the west side
Rainwater tank: yes
Other requests / special features, including reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be included:
Mudroom absolutely necessary; the garage door should have a regular door integrated into the rolling gate. We definitely want a separated living area. The living room should be closed off.
On the attic floor, there will be three roof windows and a skylight strip above the shower. A double casement window will be installed in the hallway, one in the toilet, and one in the bathroom.
The area in the upper floor is stated without deducting the roof slope. We will have a knee wall of about 1 m (3 ft).
The bay window will also serve as the dormer.
House Design
Who designed it: Ourselves
What do you particularly like? So far, everything
What don’t you like? Living room a bit small, master bedroom too large
Personal budget limit for house including fittings: 550,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage
If you have to give up on any details/finishes:
-can give up: office
-can’t give up: mudroom
We have an appointment with a timber construction company next week, so I’m not sure yet what is possible and what is not. The designs are ours and have been carefully considered for several years now.
I am very curious about your feedback.
Thank you in advance.
Good luck
Ambrosia
tomtom79 schrieb:
Make up your mind— in other posts, 11m² (118 ft²) is too small, but here 15m² (161 ft²) is too large.I could just as well say I should choose clothing size 40. But what good is that if I’m either heavier or slimmer? Such nonsense—especially since I’m specifically asking what is supposed to go in there. – Men! :PI want to say something about the so-called "airlock" — which actually isn’t one. You’re basically going straight from the garage, including exhaust fumes, to the fresh or not-so-fresh laundry. So unless you invest in two electric cars along with building the house, you’ll have exhaust fumes inside. And of all places, that’s really unpleasant when it comes to laundry.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
We have wanted to build for several years and have been gathering ideas. The plan has only taken shape since August, when we found out which plot we would get. Land for building is very rare and expensive here. Nothing has been allocated for over 10 years, hence the long planning period.
- The utility room really contains everything: technical installations, a shower, washer and dryer, cloakroom, and storage for items like Christmas decorations, etc., which is why it is so large.
- The staircase is planned as a staircase with a landing. That is why there is that corner in the bedroom—an opening for the ceiling—but the design program didn’t allow it any other way.
- The kitchen island is meant to be large enough for all tasks you don’t want to do with your back to the family, so cooking, washing up, chopping.
Which specific narrow “mouse holes” do you mean? And where do you personally think more windows should be added?
The dining table space is in the bay window. Essentially, you can also place the table turned the other way around.
Unfortunately, the garage cannot be bigger. We are already at the limit and may not move the house. It is exactly within the building allowance and cannot be shifted by a millimeter. So we have to make do with the space. The municipality’s alternative was to put the garage in the garden and use the north side as the garden, but that doesn’t make sense to us as the driveway situation would be awkward.
The stub on the bedroom side is for the staircase.
My parents also have a 1m (3 ft 3 in) knee wall, and it works both for the bed and the bathtub. I even laid down in the bed, and at 1.80m (5 ft 11 in) tall, I don’t have any trouble hitting my head. My dad is even taller and can sit up in bed without bumping his head.
“Years of planning” see above!
We are still quite flexible with the kitchen planning and will have it professionally planned later at the kitchen studio. The bay window was initially planned on the southeast corner, but that looked odd, especially if there had been a dormer at the corner. According to the development plan, we are only allowed one large dormer.
I don’t see the odor issue as critical. If the engine is running, the garage door is open anyway.
The “airlock” is very practical for us because the children simply have a lot of outerwear, and I don’t want it in the entrance area. Also, my husband works with very strong-smelling raw materials, and I don’t want that smell anywhere except in the utility room. He can leave his work clothes there and take a shower downstairs immediately after work, without spreading the smell through the rest of the house. Right now, the smell is in the bedroom, which is unpleasant.
kaho674 schrieb:
For years?
Then a few questions:
- What exactly is in the utility room that it needs over 15m² (160 ft²)?
- What ceiling height suits this staircase? What is planned? What are the riser height and tread width?
- What are the dimensions of the kitchen island?
- What is that corner in the bedroom?
Aside from the lack of windows and the space for the dining table being far too small, and here and there some narrow “mouse holes” that need to be a bit wider, you can see an idea that isn’t completely nonsense. A good planner can make it buildable.
We have wanted to build for several years and have been gathering ideas. The plan has only taken shape since August, when we found out which plot we would get. Land for building is very rare and expensive here. Nothing has been allocated for over 10 years, hence the long planning period.
- The utility room really contains everything: technical installations, a shower, washer and dryer, cloakroom, and storage for items like Christmas decorations, etc., which is why it is so large.
- The staircase is planned as a staircase with a landing. That is why there is that corner in the bedroom—an opening for the ceiling—but the design program didn’t allow it any other way.
- The kitchen island is meant to be large enough for all tasks you don’t want to do with your back to the family, so cooking, washing up, chopping.
Which specific narrow “mouse holes” do you mean? And where do you personally think more windows should be added?
The dining table space is in the bay window. Essentially, you can also place the table turned the other way around.
danixf schrieb:
A 6m (20 ft) garage is very tight. With the walls and garage door, your internal length as shown on your sketch is only about 5.76m (19 ft). A typical station wagon is roughly 2.1m (7 ft) wide, so two side by side would be about 4.2m (14 ft). That leaves roughly 0.75m (2.5 ft) on each side if the cars are parked directly next to each other.
That makes it hard to get in and out with small kids—you’d have to move the car out of the garage first.
Make it 7m (23 ft) or at least 6.5m (21 ft), and you’ll have enough space. That should definitely be doable within your budget. Finally, some realistic figures.
What is that stub on the upper left side of the bedroom?
Is a 1m (3 ft 3 in) knee wall not too low to place beds as you want? Especially in the bedroom, that could be problematic if the wardrobe suddenly has to be moved for the bed, or am I mistaken?
Unfortunately, the garage cannot be bigger. We are already at the limit and may not move the house. It is exactly within the building allowance and cannot be shifted by a millimeter. So we have to make do with the space. The municipality’s alternative was to put the garage in the garden and use the north side as the garden, but that doesn’t make sense to us as the driveway situation would be awkward.
The stub on the bedroom side is for the staircase.
My parents also have a 1m (3 ft 3 in) knee wall, and it works both for the bed and the bathtub. I even laid down in the bed, and at 1.80m (5 ft 11 in) tall, I don’t have any trouble hitting my head. My dad is even taller and can sit up in bed without bumping his head.
11ant schrieb:
The small living room and the layout/furnishing of the kitchen-dining area make the “years of” planning somewhat questionable, but the sketches give the architect a clear and largely workable idea of the clients’ wishes. Regarding the beds and bathtub, I share the doubts about whether the knee wall height is sufficient and whether those items fit correctly under the eaves. The garage width is adequate as long as you don’t have to roll garbage bins through there. The bay window could well extend a bit further away from the strict centerline.
“Years of planning” see above!
We are still quite flexible with the kitchen planning and will have it professionally planned later at the kitchen studio. The bay window was initially planned on the southeast corner, but that looked odd, especially if there had been a dormer at the corner. According to the development plan, we are only allowed one large dormer.
kaho674 schrieb:
I want to say something about the so-called “airlock”—it really isn’t one. You basically go directly from the garage, including exhaust fumes, to the clean or not-so-clean laundry. So, unless you invest in two electric cars at the same time you build the house, you will have exhaust fumes in the house. That is especially unpleasant near the laundry.
I don’t see the odor issue as critical. If the engine is running, the garage door is open anyway.
The “airlock” is very practical for us because the children simply have a lot of outerwear, and I don’t want it in the entrance area. Also, my husband works with very strong-smelling raw materials, and I don’t want that smell anywhere except in the utility room. He can leave his work clothes there and take a shower downstairs immediately after work, without spreading the smell through the rest of the house. Right now, the smell is in the bedroom, which is unpleasant.
How are we supposed to understand a "planning process spanning several years" together with a "plan only finalized since August"?
Should the 5.76 m (19 feet) garage width be interpreted as 6 m (20 feet) minus a 24 cm (9.5 inch) exterior wall? If so, I expect the overall dimension to shrink a bit more: while the exterior wall could indeed be 17.5 cm (7 inches) thick, the plaster should be on your property, and given current energy-saving regulations, I find it unlikely that the shared wall with the house shown in the plan will be accepted. Omitting the garage wall along this stretch would be structurally complex and costly, or at least would reduce the door width on its left edge. But, as I said, this is essentially the architect’s problem; in my view, the plan is mature enough for discussion with the architect.
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Should the 5.76 m (19 feet) garage width be interpreted as 6 m (20 feet) minus a 24 cm (9.5 inch) exterior wall? If so, I expect the overall dimension to shrink a bit more: while the exterior wall could indeed be 17.5 cm (7 inches) thick, the plaster should be on your property, and given current energy-saving regulations, I find it unlikely that the shared wall with the house shown in the plan will be accepted. Omitting the garage wall along this stretch would be structurally complex and costly, or at least would reduce the door width on its left edge. But, as I said, this is essentially the architect’s problem; in my view, the plan is mature enough for discussion with the architect.
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- The platform staircase does not work with the given dimensions, see sample examples:
- Kitchen, bay window, and passage to the living area do not fit well together, although I do like the general separation of the living area.
- How deep is the pantry? It looks to be about 100cm (40 inches), which means not even a freezer cabinet can be placed there and opened.
- Where is the window supposed to be in the upstairs bathroom?
- The children's rooms will vary significantly in size due to the sloping ceilings.
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