ᐅ How do you get started? When should you hire which professionals for which tasks?
Created on: 29 Sep 2019 18:15
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dr2okevin
Hello,
I have decided to build a single-family house. I have already read a lot about it and could answer many detailed questions, but I can never find information about the first steps. How do I get an approximate idea of the cost of my desired house without immediately paying several thousand for an architect? How do I find a plot of land? How can I tell if my idea for the house will fit on the plot, or how many square meters (square feet) of living space would be suitable for me?
I know what I want:
A basement, underfloor heating, a heat pump with a cooling function (probably with a ground collector), photovoltaic panels and solar thermal system (possibly integrated directly into the roof without tiles underneath?), a smart home system (probably Homematic), a double garage with electric vehicle charging capabilities, and preparations for a home battery.
I also already know the type of rooms I want, the kind of features they should have, and roughly where they should be located in the house.
I assume I will need an architect to realize my wishes. But my questions are: When should I bring the architect on board? When do costs start to occur? And who else do I need? The construction companies will surely need to be coordinated by someone.
Regarding my financial possibilities, I still plan to discuss this with a banker friend, but at the moment, I estimate a budget of about 300,000 euros (approximately $330,000), with about 30% saved as equity so far.
I am currently single but want to plan the house so that it can comfortably accommodate up to four people with minimal renovations.
I have decided to build a single-family house. I have already read a lot about it and could answer many detailed questions, but I can never find information about the first steps. How do I get an approximate idea of the cost of my desired house without immediately paying several thousand for an architect? How do I find a plot of land? How can I tell if my idea for the house will fit on the plot, or how many square meters (square feet) of living space would be suitable for me?
I know what I want:
A basement, underfloor heating, a heat pump with a cooling function (probably with a ground collector), photovoltaic panels and solar thermal system (possibly integrated directly into the roof without tiles underneath?), a smart home system (probably Homematic), a double garage with electric vehicle charging capabilities, and preparations for a home battery.
I also already know the type of rooms I want, the kind of features they should have, and roughly where they should be located in the house.
I assume I will need an architect to realize my wishes. But my questions are: When should I bring the architect on board? When do costs start to occur? And who else do I need? The construction companies will surely need to be coordinated by someone.
Regarding my financial possibilities, I still plan to discuss this with a banker friend, but at the moment, I estimate a budget of about 300,000 euros (approximately $330,000), with about 30% saved as equity so far.
I am currently single but want to plan the house so that it can comfortably accommodate up to four people with minimal renovations.
I’m going to be quite blunt because I really can’t stand it when someone just drops in without following basic guidelines—like at least skimming the information for 1-2 hours, respecting the house rules, or similar—before asking questions that clearly haven’t been thought through.
I don’t see any sign of “I’ve already done my research” in this question at all.
Men like to dream about their “latte”
For some, it should stay just a dream
And since some plots of land already cost around 300,000 (currency), there isn’t much left after that.
Anyone can figure that out with just 10 minutes of basic homework and then ask more relevant questions that receive smarter answers.
Let me put it this way: I’ve decided to win the lottery. I already know what I want to buy with my money. However, I still don’t know which numbers to pick. Unfortunately, I only have 5 € (about $5.50) available.
I don’t see any sign of “I’ve already done my research” in this question at all.
Chiloe schrieb:
With the long list of demands like “everything included,” basically a fully loaded package...
Men like to dream about their “latte”
For some, it should stay just a dream
Nordlys schrieb:
A sensible approach looks like this: How much can I spend? Once that is clear, what can I get for it?
And since some plots of land already cost around 300,000 (currency), there isn’t much left after that.
Anyone can figure that out with just 10 minutes of basic homework and then ask more relevant questions that receive smarter answers.
Let me put it this way: I’ve decided to win the lottery. I already know what I want to buy with my money. However, I still don’t know which numbers to pick. Unfortunately, I only have 5 € (about $5.50) available.
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dr2okevin30 Sep 2019 08:28This is quite a strange reception here.
My cost assumptions are based on various websites where the price for such a house is listed between 150,000 and 250,000 (without land). Land costs are difficult for me to estimate because I don’t know how many square meters (or feet) I would need, and I haven’t found any offers in the area where I would like to build without an already existing house.
I included additional costs for a heat pump in my estimate simply based on gut feeling, as I don’t know which model I would need and prices are hard to find online. I assumed in the end it would be more expensive than a gas heating system, but not by much since I can save on the entire gas connection and chimney. I would handle the smart home installation myself, as I’m an IT specialist. Only the cabling would have to be installed beforehand, of course. A photovoltaic system would probably cost around 10,000 to 15,000 (10k to 15k), and should pay for itself after a few years.
I have now found a plot of land through gdi-sh that I could imagine would be suitable. How do I find out whether it is for sale or who owns it? The information I have includes a land parcel number, the standard land value (115 € (approx. $125)), development status (building-ready land), and type of use (residential area). The size of the plot is not listed. It seems to have been available for several years already, which surprises me a bit.
My cost assumptions are based on various websites where the price for such a house is listed between 150,000 and 250,000 (without land). Land costs are difficult for me to estimate because I don’t know how many square meters (or feet) I would need, and I haven’t found any offers in the area where I would like to build without an already existing house.
I included additional costs for a heat pump in my estimate simply based on gut feeling, as I don’t know which model I would need and prices are hard to find online. I assumed in the end it would be more expensive than a gas heating system, but not by much since I can save on the entire gas connection and chimney. I would handle the smart home installation myself, as I’m an IT specialist. Only the cabling would have to be installed beforehand, of course. A photovoltaic system would probably cost around 10,000 to 15,000 (10k to 15k), and should pay for itself after a few years.
I have now found a plot of land through gdi-sh that I could imagine would be suitable. How do I find out whether it is for sale or who owns it? The information I have includes a land parcel number, the standard land value (115 € (approx. $125)), development status (building-ready land), and type of use (residential area). The size of the plot is not listed. It seems to have been available for several years already, which surprises me a bit.
Ask the local authority who owns the property. Ask if it is for sale if you know the owner. Many plots of land are left empty as an investment because interest rates are zero. They are usually not sellable because the speculation period has not expired. Any profit would have to be taxed. The land reference values reflect past transactions, as they are based on prices paid. If it says 115,- there and currently nothing is on the market, the seller might possibly achieve 215.
dr2okevin schrieb:
This reception here is quite strange. Please don’t take it personally; we also found your questions a bit "unusual."
But it’s good that you’re not discouraged and are responding again.
Getting started is always difficult.
dr2okevin schrieb:
My cost assumptions are based on various websites where the price for a house like this is listed between 150,000 and 250,000 (without land). And how many square meters of living space do those houses have? 100m² (1,076 sq ft) is not enough for four people. Also, those houses don’t include a basement, photovoltaic system, garage, or even a carport. Are you familiar with the term “additional building costs”? These are things like earthworks, which are ALWAYS extra. On top of the purchasing incidental costs, of course. With your requirements, such as a basement and garage, you will NEVER come in under 400,000.
dr2okevin schrieb:
I have now found a plot of land via gdi-sh that I think might be suitable. That’s a rather academic approach. Just check listings on real estate platforms like ImmobilienScout, at local banks such as Sparkasse or Volksbank, as well as in the weekly newspaper. Budget about 100,000€ (approximately $110,000) for a suitable plot.
dr2okevin schrieb:
This is quite a strange reception here.
My cost assumptions are based on various websites where the price for such a house is listed between 150,000 and 250,000 euros (without land). Land costs are hard for me to estimate since I don’t know how many square meters I would need, and in the area where I’d like to build, I haven’t found any listings without an existing house yet.
I added extra costs for a heat pump purely based on gut feeling, as I don’t know which model I would need and prices are hard to find online. I assumed it would end up costing more than a gas heating system but not by much, since I would save the whole gas connection and chimney. I would do the smart home installation myself since I’m an IT specialist. The cables just need to be in place beforehand, of course. A photovoltaic system would probably cost around 10,000 to 15,000 euros and should pay for itself after a few years.
Now I found a plot through gdi-sh that I could imagine might be suitable. How do I find out whether it is actually for sale or who owns it? The info I have is a parcel number, the standard land value (115 euros), development status (ready-to-build land), and type of use (residential area). The size of the plot isn’t stated. It seems to have been vacant for a few years, which surprises me a bit. Then I’d say welcome to the forum and I can already tell you that your budget won’t be enough.
About 1.5 years ago I calculated 2,000 euros per square meter of living space. For the basement, 65,000 euros for 70 square meters of living space. Plus additional construction-related costs of 30,000 euros. Kitchen, furniture, landscaping (for a flat plot I would estimate 20,000 euros). A double garage costs approximately 30,000 to 40,000 euros depending on the design. KfW Plus 40 standard will cost you another 20,000 euros on top of that.
Now tell us what total number you came up with based on your estimated square meters?!
And this still doesn’t include the land.
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Steffen8030 Sep 2019 09:21You are a strange computer scientist... usually, they are good with numbers.