Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 774 m² (8,330 ft²)
Slope: 13%, as shown on the site plan
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building coverage ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, setback lines, and property boundary: 11 x 15 m (36 x 49 ft), as shown on the site plan
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: Gable roof, 30° pitch
Orientation: Ridge running NE-SW
Requirements of the Homeowners
Style, roof type, building type: Main residence with 2 accessory apartments (one in the attic, one smaller in the basement)
Basement, floors: Basement (UG), ground floor (EG), upper floor (OG), attic (DG)
Number of occupants, ages: 1975m, 1980f, 2007m (mostly lives with partner from previous marriage), 2009f, 2019m, (expected 2020m/f)
Space requirement on ground and upper floor: from 200 m² (2,150 ft²)
Office: Family use
Guests per year: Apart from resident born 2007 (male), about 6
Open or closed architecture: open plan
Traditional or contemporary design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: Home theater system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: Roof terrace in the attic for accessory apartment 1
Garage, carport: 3 garages, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden, greenhouse: A level garden is planned on top of the garages, with lawn and some bushes around.
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for preferences:
House Design
Designer: Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why? Plot with significant slope but still a level garden on top of the garages. Accessory apartment 1 with separate entrance from above.
Personal budget for the house, including outfitting: 1 million EUR in a major city in Bavaria
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump with photovoltaic system on the roof facing southwest
If you have to make compromises, which details/features can you do without: Gable window in the attic
Why is the design the way it is? We want to use the (expensive) plot as efficiently as possible.
What is the key/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Where are the mistakes? Suggestions for improvement? Is the plumbing for bathrooms and kitchens sufficient or should I redesign it?
Unfortunately, I can’t accurately represent the terrain in the design software. If needed, I can scan a section drawing to make it clearer. The garden to the left of the house and above the external staircase will certainly be designed differently later. So far, there is no lawn area marked yet.
Many thanks in advance for lots of inspiring ideas
Plot size: 774 m² (8,330 ft²)
Slope: 13%, as shown on the site plan
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building coverage ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, setback lines, and property boundary: 11 x 15 m (36 x 49 ft), as shown on the site plan
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: Gable roof, 30° pitch
Orientation: Ridge running NE-SW
Requirements of the Homeowners
Style, roof type, building type: Main residence with 2 accessory apartments (one in the attic, one smaller in the basement)
Basement, floors: Basement (UG), ground floor (EG), upper floor (OG), attic (DG)
Number of occupants, ages: 1975m, 1980f, 2007m (mostly lives with partner from previous marriage), 2009f, 2019m, (expected 2020m/f)
Space requirement on ground and upper floor: from 200 m² (2,150 ft²)
Office: Family use
Guests per year: Apart from resident born 2007 (male), about 6
Open or closed architecture: open plan
Traditional or contemporary design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: Home theater system in the living room
Balcony, roof terrace: Roof terrace in the attic for accessory apartment 1
Garage, carport: 3 garages, 2 parking spaces
Utility garden, greenhouse: A level garden is planned on top of the garages, with lawn and some bushes around.
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for preferences:
- Ground-level family access via garage and ramp into the basement. Guest entrance on the right side into the ground floor.
- Separate external staircase leads directly to accessory apartment 1 in the attic. This unit also has a private entrance from above (north side) with garage and parking space (see site plan).
- Accessory apartment 2 has direct access from the private driveway to the basement and the garage at the left property boundary.
- Since we are a large family, laundry is often left in the living room. This should change, so we want a generous utility room (with marked ironing board) on the ground floor and possibly an additional ventilation system.
- The private driveway is used only by us and one other neighboring property behind us. The surroundings have many trees, so there is no real view.
- Large sliding glass doors from the dining room to the terrace/garden.
- Good soundproofing between attic / upper floor and ground floor / basement.
House Design
Designer: Do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why? Plot with significant slope but still a level garden on top of the garages. Accessory apartment 1 with separate entrance from above.
Personal budget for the house, including outfitting: 1 million EUR in a major city in Bavaria
Preferred heating technology: Heat pump with photovoltaic system on the roof facing southwest
If you have to make compromises, which details/features can you do without: Gable window in the attic
Why is the design the way it is? We want to use the (expensive) plot as efficiently as possible.
What is the key/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Where are the mistakes? Suggestions for improvement? Is the plumbing for bathrooms and kitchens sufficient or should I redesign it?
Unfortunately, I can’t accurately represent the terrain in the design software. If needed, I can scan a section drawing to make it clearer. The garden to the left of the house and above the external staircase will certainly be designed differently later. So far, there is no lawn area marked yet.
Many thanks in advance for lots of inspiring ideas
haydee schrieb:
With four children, the garden gets used quite often.Although the similarities are limited, I would like to recommend the thread by @Arifas as a reading tip: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-hanghaus-mit-5-Kinderzimmer.24670/https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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On the upper floor, as far as can be seen, the staircase and hallway do not align properly.
Also, what I don’t like is that the main focus of the staircase is always the living area — no peace on the sofa, especially with four teenage children.
Master bedroom – the bed placement will be too tight. The bathrooms are overcrowded and mostly have very small showers.
A walk-in wardrobe with a width of 175 cm (69 inches) is not sufficient for two rows of closets.
What I’m missing is a proper site plan with elevation points and neighboring properties, also regarding access roads and so on. What about the garage on the north side?
I also wouldn’t include the two rental units. From what I can see, the tenants wouldn’t even have a basement storage area or similar — what about their bicycles, suitcases, etc.? This doesn’t seem well thought out.
The house could then have a smaller footprint, and you could plan the basement with an office/guest/laundry/utility/technical room, the ground floor with kitchen/dining/living/master bedroom, and the attic floor with the children’s rooms.
Also, what I don’t like is that the main focus of the staircase is always the living area — no peace on the sofa, especially with four teenage children.
Master bedroom – the bed placement will be too tight. The bathrooms are overcrowded and mostly have very small showers.
A walk-in wardrobe with a width of 175 cm (69 inches) is not sufficient for two rows of closets.
What I’m missing is a proper site plan with elevation points and neighboring properties, also regarding access roads and so on. What about the garage on the north side?
I also wouldn’t include the two rental units. From what I can see, the tenants wouldn’t even have a basement storage area or similar — what about their bicycles, suitcases, etc.? This doesn’t seem well thought out.
The house could then have a smaller footprint, and you could plan the basement with an office/guest/laundry/utility/technical room, the ground floor with kitchen/dining/living/master bedroom, and the attic floor with the children’s rooms.
Thank you very much for the many (sometimes difficult) but incredibly valuable suggestions. We will now probably go ahead and cancel the upper granny flat, which means the attic including the roof terrace will no longer be built.
Fortunately, we did not buy an extremely expensive plot, as some have suggested, and rely entirely on the “co-financing” by tenants; we still have full freedom. The idea originally came from the thought of making use of the possibilities of the plot with the separate access/driveway from above.
My wife and I will now “retreat for reflection” and reconsider everything once again. We will carefully review your suggestions and incorporate them into our considerations. We will then post completely new plans; maybe we will even start a new thread?
In the meantime, we will of course continue to follow this thread (and also the one recommended by you, 11ant) with great interest. So if you have any further suggestions, please share them here.
Best regards and many thanks!
Fortunately, we did not buy an extremely expensive plot, as some have suggested, and rely entirely on the “co-financing” by tenants; we still have full freedom. The idea originally came from the thought of making use of the possibilities of the plot with the separate access/driveway from above.
My wife and I will now “retreat for reflection” and reconsider everything once again. We will carefully review your suggestions and incorporate them into our considerations. We will then post completely new plans; maybe we will even start a new thread?
In the meantime, we will of course continue to follow this thread (and also the one recommended by you, 11ant) with great interest. So if you have any further suggestions, please share them here.
Best regards and many thanks!
Yes, with Arifas there are five children and their practice, but the plot situation is very similar.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Hello everyone,
okay, we’re back from our retreat. You’re right; we are removing the upper granny flat and therefore the entire attic floor!
The garage and the parking space above (to the north) no longer need to be built. Instead, we have raised the knee wall on the upper floor (which is now somehow the attic floor) from 150 cm to 200 cm (59 inches to 79 inches), so we can have side-facing windows and avoid having roof slopes everywhere on the upper floor.
We have also taken your other suggestions seriously and implemented most of them. Please take another look—we’re eager to hear more ideas (and also your criticism, if necessary).
Do you have any ideas about what we can do with the northern part of the plot now? We’ve added a door from the bedroom on the upper floor to this garden area. Of course, we no longer need a wall in the garden; instead, we can terraced landscape the 3-meter (10 feet) height difference. Maybe we’ll even build a slide for the kids there or something similar
Is it really the case that a green-roofed garage is not allowed to be built on the property boundary?
Can I use the rear part of the left garage as a small basement for the granny flat, or will we have moisture issues since it is underground?
Best regards
okay, we’re back from our retreat. You’re right; we are removing the upper granny flat and therefore the entire attic floor!
The garage and the parking space above (to the north) no longer need to be built. Instead, we have raised the knee wall on the upper floor (which is now somehow the attic floor) from 150 cm to 200 cm (59 inches to 79 inches), so we can have side-facing windows and avoid having roof slopes everywhere on the upper floor.
We have also taken your other suggestions seriously and implemented most of them. Please take another look—we’re eager to hear more ideas (and also your criticism, if necessary).
Do you have any ideas about what we can do with the northern part of the plot now? We’ve added a door from the bedroom on the upper floor to this garden area. Of course, we no longer need a wall in the garden; instead, we can terraced landscape the 3-meter (10 feet) height difference. Maybe we’ll even build a slide for the kids there or something similar
Is it really the case that a green-roofed garage is not allowed to be built on the property boundary?
Can I use the rear part of the left garage as a small basement for the granny flat, or will we have moisture issues since it is underground?
Best regards
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